Republic Pilots (IBT) Request NMB Release
 

Just got the email....here goes nothing I guess

Well first the NMB has to release the group, if they do, then things will get interesting at the end of the 30 day cooling off period. How many bet Rev. Bedford signs a new agreement without striking?

He'll take it all the way to midnight of the 30th day.

If we get released.

Bolo/Mulva/et al pointing out why this is a bad move in 3, 2, 1...

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Sic 'em..............

And I thought all Republic pilots were spineless inbreds.

Give 'em hell boys.

I can't see (I hope) that any F9 pilot would have a thing to say about this, except, Good Luck.

BB will take it to the last hour. Good luck guys, and gals!

Best of luck to the RP guys....stick it to the rev....

Some pretty sage advice.

Request all you want...
 

This is the IBT's way of diverting attention to the fact they can't close the deal. The IBT has WITHDRAWN previously negotiated Sections...in their ENTIRETY. Having played this game before, being in a similar position, getting a release will be next to impossible. The Company will simply refer to the wasted time "negotiating in good faith" per Section 6 guidelines, and that they, can accurately state, they have met the minimum legal definition of "Bargaining in good faith.." Plenty of ammo for BB here, IBT 747 fiasco et al., and the game will go on. This "strategery" was approved by IBT Airline Div......Bedford will laugh all the way to the bank as ya'll work under this atrocious contract for a while longer. PS Wait to the "last hour Settlement" occurs....with no retroactivity to the Amendable date. I bet the IBT agrees to it, .....E190 is JetBlue or better, right? Look for some interesting spin on why THAT didn't happen......Good luck just the same.....

Whether they are released is up to the mediator. Only time will tell there.

However, the "last hour settlement" to which you refer is a misnomer. IBT can't "settle" anything. There may be a last hour TA, upon which the RAH pilots will vote to decline or ratify, but IBT will have no say in the vote. Having been in this position before, as you say, I am surprised you would not know this.

Even if the expected last hour TA is substandard or inadequate, to include signing bonus/retro pay, it's terms will be based on what BB & co were willing to concede just as much as what IBT was willing to demand, and vice versa. The strategy involved goes layers deep. A poor TA presented to the pilots as the best offer the company is willing to provide can easily become a rallying cry.

At the end of the game, whether the RAH pilots vote to ratify a substandard TA or stand firm is on the pilot group. IBT won't, because they can't, settle anything.

Best of luck to everyone at RP!

Whoa!

Let's play ball!

What happened? Forget the password to the 3662 username? Of course the new union withdrew sections negotiated by the old corrupt 747. It was their duty to do so. Im sorry you are so upset the new guys arent in your back pocket anymore. You guys had it great for a while as GS did everything you wanted. Those days are long gone. Better get used to it.

actually, incorrect on many assumptions. This is way above the mediator. The mediator's boss happens to be Ron Henson's golfing buddy...so let's just say that it isn't a level playing field. If you read the letter that came out today and the attachement, the IBT skipped the mediator, skipped the mediator's boss, and went directly to the head of the NMB. They said that the process is going no where and we want to be released. When corruption is in the way, get it out of the way...I'm glad to finally see something that has the apperance of progress...now the fun beigns.

Well my respect for RAH pilots just increased tenfold! I'll walk the line with you anyday. And you know what? If the NMB says no...just keep asking. Also, since the average Joe doesn't know who Republic is, hopefully the IBT makes the media very aware that you operate jets on behalf of United Airlines, Delta Airlines, USAirways, etc. Let the traveling public know whose airline operation a potential Republic strike would hurt. Good luck fellas!

Already been started. Although, the targeted audience is actually UA, Delta, and USAir's management. The goal is to get them to put pressure on BB.

Republic Airways Teamsters Share Plight About Company's Attacks on Workforce | International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT)

Dude, what planet are you on? How did we get in this?
Let me tell you why this is a bad move. NOT!

I say good for you guys and gals this should have been pursued a lot sooner!
Good luck.

To all of my friends at S5.....its been a LONG 5 years coming.... let the fun begin, the REV has had his day.... now its your time.

Never get released. The NMB is owned by the airlines and years from now, they'll still be waiting for self-help.

I guess spirit two years ago was a fluke then huh?

In spite of the wisdom that your 2,586 APC posts may entail, I'll remain cautiously optimistic.

Asking for release and getting release are two VERY different things.

Best of luck to the RAH pilot group in getting a CBA that is LONG overdue.

That said, was Comair 2001 not the last regional pilot group that actually struck? I know Mesaba went past the deadline, but don't think they ever actually officially "walked out".

The difficulty you guys have in getting a release would be RAH's hands in so many different airlines. If their mainline partners put the right amount of pressure on the NMB, you may not get a release. That said, you guys need a better contract and I truly hope the release comes and you guys knock it out of the park.

The pressure from the other airlines will be on Bedfords back.
Stay strong IBT Brothers and Sisters my prayers are with you during this difficult but necessary time.

[QUOTE=HercDriver130;1223586]To all of my friends at S5.....its been a LONG 5 years coming.... let the fun begin, the REV has had his day.... now its

Give old "Bed-Wetter" hell guys.

Spirit is a niche airline; they don't codeshare with legacies. Apples and oranges young man.

No, Spirit in the grand scheme of things is insignificant. They have limited market share and quite honestly fly a demographic of people that the powers to be (i.e. Congress, the President, etc.) simply don't care much about.

RAH on the otherhand flies for every legacy airline and composes a good portion of the flying for 3 of them. A strike from RAH would ground a lot of flights and cause a huge uproar from ****ed off passengers (remember they don't care how much or how little pilots make, only that their tickets are dirt cheap).

That uproar would reverberate with nervous Congressman, Senators, and even the President himself. All before going into an election in November? No, release won't happen because no one will want to rock the boat. If it was a smaller carrier then maybe, but not a carrier as big as RAH.

It sucks and I wish the NMB would release RAH or any other carrier that gets to the point they have but unfortunately there are political realities here that will prevent it from happening any time soon.

So I have a question. I am offered the shuttle class in July. This is the one certificate that I wanted due to 3 of 5 bases would be easy commute. I have a few questions
1)Would anyone still go there with the request to strike? They told us in interview that we would have every right as a normal pilot and would not be fired if we were still on probation. Any thoughts?
2)if we are in training and pilots strike, is going to class considered crossing the line and being a scab? I don't want the title tied to me but I honestly don't know because it's not like you are helping the company make money
3) I have heard that they are short handed on the shuttle side and that some people have been holding line quickly out of training. Is this true and if so what base?
4)I have an offer from gojet that is the following week. They have their own issue with name reputation so was asking thoughts on which you would take given the new circumstances with republic

EBoard VP of 357:

“As for the LOA lawsuit, yes it does directly affect your abilities to feed your family. You see, the money you deserve is being sent to another pilot group instead of you. It supports a pilot group of a failed airline. Not the pilot's fault it has failed, rather management. How about send that money to the people that helped make that money? That you, me and the rest of the pilots here at RAH.”


NC update from RAH:

On the pay front, the union presented a revised proposal and informed us that they are not interested in a pay proposal that contains “at-risk” compensation components such as profit sharing.

Anyone else think this is a pretty large disconncent bordering on humorous?

Go Jet only has an issue with name reputation from some that post APC and FlightInfo.com. The only problem with their name reputation in the real world is how the airline was created and the initial group of pilots that jumped TSA's seniority list. However, in the real world, there is no reputation problem (i.e. jumpseats, career advancement etc.) with working for Go Jet today.

Remember, people act out, say things that they would never say in person and abuse their anonymity on these message boards.

You mean like 36.62 constantly attempting to belittle and stab the people he works with in te back? I guarantee you he doesn't have the balls to do that in person...I'd love to find out just who he is, ive got a tune sock and D battery with his name on it.

They said the same thing about Comair too. Since the Comair strike major airlines, particularly Delta, have made sure to use the schedule to insulate themselves from disruptions at a regional carrier. Its understandable that Republic means a lot to the people there, but in the big picture it isn't a big deal.

Hey!! F9 pilot posing as a RAH pilot is back!!

During an election year? Never gonna happen. Don't worry though, by the time RAH has been released to strike, everyone else will be at GoJet cost structures. Good luck.

Hey, it’s a RAH pilot posing as a semi-reasonable human and an pilot with previous- or not - experience!

You sound good on our private message board, why do you lose it in a public forum?

It seems between DC7C (Richard Face), Crism, who posted as soon as he got the blast email, and me, I am the least detrimental leak you guys got. It’s sweet that an IBT member what’s to give ME a blanket party (careful what you wish for), but Crism, who’s been on APC a long time, broke the news of arbitration/release blast before it hit our message board.

To date, I am:

A Ford and Harrison Attorney
A Seabury employee
A management puke
A RAH pilot that wants to be a management puke
A former RAH pilot that works for Frontier
A Frontier pilot that is posing as a RAH pilot

Neither Ford & Harrison, Seabury or management would comment on this board (read it – yes. Use it against us – yes, comment – no)

A former RAH pilot at Frontier or a Frontier pilot could give a $hit about our meditaion, so that leaves a pilot at RAH that thinks the Union (357, CM, IBT) is sucking the blood from us and promising the sky.

You REALLY think we’ll hear from the NMB in 6 days and that our Union wouldn’t ask for release without “knowing the answer”? You’re paranoid and dilusional.

I have been at RAH long enough to see the GS days and they don’t look any different then where we are today.

Funny as He11 that CM thinks we’re all first time regional pilots and “kids”. Great representitive for our pilot group.

Stop trying to blame everyone else and look at our pilot group. Like 2000 members and there were 3 questions last Thursday. Today some one asked, “what happens on Thursdays”?We had 7 ExCo positions open and only 7 were willing to “run”. They weren’t elected, they were appointed. Because, in the end no pilot at RAH really gives a rats a$$ about anyone or anything else.

Stop billing me for my “negotiating” assessment, stop raising my hopes and let us move on.

We (the IBT) has got to be the least responsable organization I’ve ever seen, every thing is always some one elses fault, we’re mean when we don’t have to be and we lie when the truth is easier. And we expect the company to respond positively?

Keep blaming BB, WH, RH, FAPA, MEA, the arbitrator, scheduling, the mediator and who ever you can dream up. If it seems like EVERYONE is against us, is it possible that the problem isn’t with them but with us? Keep up the whining, it’s worked so well so far, as has our NC.


If you think that this is the first, last and only pilot group screwed by IBT, you MUST be a kid or it's your first regional/commuter airline EBoard President statement) - they've been doing this for YEARS.

Going to class is crossing the line, any pilot doing anything for the company is. Ever seen the Spirit scab site? Some of them were only working in the office. Every pilot is in it together! Disappointing people do not get that.

#1: Don't trust anyone in management, including HR. Their job is to fill classrooms right now. Yes, you could be fired. Will you get your job back? Most likely. When? Who knows. You won't be getting paid during that time off (Not that you're paid as an FO anyway...)

I have personally seen GoJet pilots getting denied a ride by other regional carriers. As was explained to me by a GJ pilot, they have very little jumpseat reciprocity with other carriers. Best to live in base and not commute if you work there.