Republic returning 18 E170s today...
04-26-2016 | 12:58 PM
#41
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There is so much rampant speculation here, especially from those who don't even work for RAH. It seems to be speculation in hopes of the demise of RAH. Pretty sad really. Like others have said, most of those birds were idle already. We have tons of people in the training pipeline, just waiting around to get through. I HIGHLY doubt there will be any downgrades or furloughs. I actually think upgrades will still be coming.
There is so much rampant speculation here, especially from those who don't even work for RAH. It seems to be speculation in hopes of the demise of RAH. Pretty sad really. Like others have said, most of those birds were idle already. We have tons of people in the training pipeline, just waiting around to get through. I HIGHLY doubt there will be any downgrades or furloughs. I actually think upgrades will still be coming.
04-26-2016 | 01:40 PM
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No.
There is so much rampant speculation here, especially from those who don't even work for RAH. It seems to be speculation in hopes of the demise of RAH. Pretty sad really. Like others have said, most of those birds were idle already. We have tons of people in the training pipeline, just waiting around to get through. I HIGHLY doubt there will be any downgrades or furloughs. I actually think upgrades will still be coming.
There is so much rampant speculation here, especially from those who don't even work for RAH. It seems to be speculation in hopes of the demise of RAH. Pretty sad really. Like others have said, most of those birds were idle already. We have tons of people in the training pipeline, just waiting around to get through. I HIGHLY doubt there will be any downgrades or furloughs. I actually think upgrades will still be coming.
It reminds me when a Mesa pilot told me "They're stealing our jobs". I said that is an interesting statement since that flying at Mesa came from ACA.
If you are going to be upset about others taking RAH's current flying you need to be aware of what RAH did to multiple others regionals the past decade. A big reason XJT is where it is, is due to RAH. I'm sure many XJT pilots remember what some RAH pilots were saying back to them as they took over their Continental flying. If RAH and Skywest wouldn't have hammered XJT back then, we all would have been better off, including RAH and Skywest pilots.
04-26-2016 | 01:53 PM
#44
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I hope you understand the irony of your statement.
It reminds me when a Mesa pilot told me "They're stealing our jobs". I said that is an interesting statement since that flying at Mesa came from ACA.
If you are going to be upset about others taking RAH's current flying you need to be aware of what RAH did to multiple others regionals the past decade. A big reason XJT is where it is, is due to RAH. I'm sure many XJT pilots remember what some RAH pilots were saying back to them as they took over their Continental flying. If RAH and Skywest wouldn't have hammered XJT back then, we all would have been better off, including RAH and Skywest pilots.
It reminds me when a Mesa pilot told me "They're stealing our jobs". I said that is an interesting statement since that flying at Mesa came from ACA.
If you are going to be upset about others taking RAH's current flying you need to be aware of what RAH did to multiple others regionals the past decade. A big reason XJT is where it is, is due to RAH. I'm sure many XJT pilots remember what some RAH pilots were saying back to them as they took over their Continental flying. If RAH and Skywest wouldn't have hammered XJT back then, we all would have been better off, including RAH and Skywest pilots.
Wait what did we do? Try to fight for a better contract? Let me know next time you're up for one and you demand and get one on your terms. I'm glad that appears to be one-sided to you.
What I am irritated at is the salivation by the vultures on this board who seem to have no regard for others lives or families at the expense of a seniority number. Flying moves around. It happens. Show some respect is all I ask.
04-26-2016 | 03:00 PM
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Wait what did we do? Try to fight for a better contract? Let me know next time you're up for one and you demand and get one on your terms. I'm glad that appears to be one-sided to you.
What I am irritated at is the salivation by the vultures on this board who seem to have no regard for others lives or families at the expense of a seniority number. Flying moves around. It happens. Show some respect is all I ask.
What I am irritated at is the salivation by the vultures on this board who seem to have no regard for others lives or families at the expense of a seniority number. Flying moves around. It happens. Show some respect is all I ask.
04-26-2016 | 03:43 PM
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Do you not remember the 69 XJT airplanes going to CHQ? Plenty of vultures on these same boards back then. That isn't a dig at you guys but an overall observation that pilots are short sighted and greedy. Anytime you have a good contract or qol you will have eager beaver idiots just starting out ready to do it for less. "You don't own the flying..." "we didn't take concessions to get the flying" "not our problem"
That may very well be true. I was not around then. I hardly think I would resort to these low rent tactics of belittling peers who could just have easily found themselves in a similar or more dire situation. This may be an anonymous board, but conducting ourselves like children in any environment should not be tolerated given the responsibility given to us on a daily basis. Aquaticus, this is not directed at you. I also realize this is likely falling on many deaf ears.
04-26-2016 | 04:01 PM
#47
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It's not it's people who have been in this sector for years and lived a ch11 he ll.
Every single regional on the last 15 years to go through ch11 has come out half the size and some are no longer in business. People are trying to prepare you of the harsh reality going on. Especially with delta involved, I wouldn't be suprised if the United or delta contract was completely dropped, possibly both.
Every single regional on the last 15 years to go through ch11 has come out half the size and some are no longer in business. People are trying to prepare you of the harsh reality going on. Especially with delta involved, I wouldn't be suprised if the United or delta contract was completely dropped, possibly both.
04-26-2016 | 04:27 PM
#48
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From: Broke
It's not it's people who have been in this sector for years and lived a ch11 he ll.
Every single regional on the last 15 years to go through ch11 has come out half the size and some are no longer in business. People are trying to prepare you of the harsh reality going on. Especially with delta involved, I wouldn't be suprised if the United or delta contract was completely dropped, possibly both.
Every single regional on the last 15 years to go through ch11 has come out half the size and some are no longer in business. People are trying to prepare you of the harsh reality going on. Especially with delta involved, I wouldn't be suprised if the United or delta contract was completely dropped, possibly both.
04-26-2016 | 04:48 PM
#49
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Delta has explicitly said they will not require RAH to give up either of their contracts with AA or United. Pretty sure they even passed this along to the Endeavor MEC.
Just because it happened in the past, doesn't mean it is relevant or will happen in this case, no matter how much some wish it to be so.
04-26-2016 | 05:02 PM
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Delta has explicitly said they will not require RAH to give up either of their contracts with AA or United. Pretty sure they even passed this along to the Endeavor MEC.
Just because it happened in the past, doesn't mean it is relevant or will happen in this case, no matter how much some wish it to be so.
Just because it happened in the past, doesn't mean it is relevant or will happen in this case, no matter how much some wish it to be so.
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