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Old 01-07-2020, 08:56 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...raine.amp.html

Looks like the plane came down in a ball of fire and also shows no data of altitude loss or airspeed loss, could have been shot down?


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Old 01-08-2020, 05:07 AM
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Could have been bombed or shot down. Iran has their own domestic terrorist/freedom fighters (they oppress certain minorities, ie Kurds).

It was not the US if that's what you're thinking. We certainly wouldn't shoot down an airliner intentionally, and would have no reason to shoot down anything near Tehran. At this point I'd expect the kinetic drama to be confined to Arabian Gulf coastal regionals or the Iraq/Afghan border areas.

Or it might have just crashed, it happens.
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Here’s the facts so far.

Last week, we took out Salami.

In “retaliation” the Iranians lob 15 missiles at a couple of US bases.

Within the same hour of their missile attack, there just happened to be a couple of earthquakes in Iran.

Then an airliner just happens to crash in Tehran. Reports indicate that it was already on fire when it went down.


Sounds to me like someone in Iran was spooked by the earth rumbling from an earthquake, assumed it was bombs going off as a result of another U.S. strike in retaliation for their retaliatory attack. Then a large airplane shows up on radar near Tehran. The left hand doesn’t communicate with the right hand.
I will let someone else figure out the rest.
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Old 01-08-2020, 08:23 AM
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At first glance, it certainly looks like it was shot down.
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OK, friendly fire on the part of overly-enthusiastic fanatics is not utterly implausable.
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Old 01-08-2020, 08:59 AM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/alihashem...7bwvjr8bKN6MyE

This video shows it trailing a LOT of fire, from medium altitude, before crashing.

It would be hard to believe even an uncontained engine failure could do that.
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2500+ hours in 737's and an engine fire won't bring a 737 down like that, not that quickly anyway. Look at the photos of holes in the wing. Could be from engine parts but I'd say that's not likely considering how the Iranians are reacting. No country capable of reading out the devices will ever get their hands on either CVR or FDR.
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Originally Posted by AirBear
No country capable of reading out the devices will ever get their hands on either CVR or FDR.
Not going to be that easy for them. Ukraine and Canada are going to insist, and Iran could dramatically worsen their economic troubles by refusing to come clean... I suspect most foriegn airlines would simply refuse to fly there.
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Originally Posted by klondike
...Then a large airplane shows up on radar near Tehran...
I’m not an expert on the nuances of radar operations, but I would imagine every airplane, during the takeoff phase, would eventually “show up” on the screen at some point...
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