Atlas Houston
12-19-2019, 10:54 AM
#2
Not a real airline pilot
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Originally Posted by Fdxlag2
Bad link...or I’m dumb.
12-19-2019, 11:57 AM
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Last edited by sigler; 12-19-2019 at 12:10 PM.
12-19-2019, 12:00 PM
#6
The NeverEnding Story
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The site is getting hammered.
Here's a direct link to the Operations Group Chairman's Factual Report:
https://dms.ntsb.gov/public/63000-63...168/631156.pdf
Here's a direct link to the Operations Group Chairman's Factual Report:
https://dms.ntsb.gov/public/63000-63...168/631156.pdf
12-19-2019, 12:48 PM
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I reordered the employment history and condensed it.
Definitely no red flags there at all. I though this sort of stuff is what the new background checks were supposed to fix after Colgan?
Fired from three carriers (CommutAir, Air Wisconsin, and TSA) and unable to upgrade at Mesa. Perfect hire into a widebody flying cargo though!
IMO the families of the other two have grounds to sue Atlas for hiring this guy.
- He was employed at InterCaribbean Airways June 2008 to June 2010 as an FO on the EMB-120, and according to the records was furloughed
- He was employed by Commutair from May 2011 to June 2011 as a DHC-8 FO, and did not complete DHC-8 training, submitting a resignation letter on June 2011 for “lack of progress in training.”
- He was employed by Air Wisconsin from April 2012 to August 2012 as a CRJ FO, and according to records he did not complete CRJ training and submitted a resignation letter on August 2012 citing personal reasons.
- Charter Air Transport in Orlando, Florida from February 2013 to March 2014 as an FO on the EMB-120
- Trans State Airlines in Bridgeton, Missouri from March 2014 to September 2014 as an FO on the EMB-145
- Trans States training records provided to Atlas Air, the FO was graded unsatisfactory on his EMB-145 type rating oral examination on April 2014, was graded unsatisfactory on his EMB-145 ATP check ride on May 2014, and was graded unsatisfactory on his EMB-145 line checks on August 2014 and September 2014.
- Mesa Airlines - February 2015 until he was hired by Atlas Air, and flew as an FO on the EMB-175 at Mesa Airlines.
- FO attempted to upgrade to captain on the EMB-175 in May 2017, and was graded unsatisfactory after two simulator sessions and returned to the line as an EMB-175 FO. According to Mesa Airlines records, the FO left Mesa Airlines for “career growth.”
- The FO was 44 years old and resided in Miami, Florida. His date of hire with Atlas Air was July 3, 2017.
His resume and application did not list employment with Air Wisconsin (April 20, 2012 through August 13, 2012) or CommutAir (May 3, 2011 through June 27, 2011).
When asked to explain any gaps in employment, the FO stated the following on his Atlas Air application: “There were time when I was furloaded [sp] and also went to college to attained [sp] degrees.” Air Wisconsin and CommutAir were not part of the PRIA requested information for the background checks conducted for Atlas Air on the FO.
According to the Director of Training, Atlas Air was not aware of the FO’s employment at either Air Wisconsin or CommutAir, or that he was unsuccessful in both training programs. He further said they would have liked to have had that information for further evaluation of the FO based on a trend in his training, and with that information “we would not have offered him a position” based on the FO’s failure to disclose that information on his application.
When asked to explain any gaps in employment, the FO stated the following on his Atlas Air application: “There were time when I was furloaded [sp] and also went to college to attained [sp] degrees.” Air Wisconsin and CommutAir were not part of the PRIA requested information for the background checks conducted for Atlas Air on the FO.
According to the Director of Training, Atlas Air was not aware of the FO’s employment at either Air Wisconsin or CommutAir, or that he was unsuccessful in both training programs. He further said they would have liked to have had that information for further evaluation of the FO based on a trend in his training, and with that information “we would not have offered him a position” based on the FO’s failure to disclose that information on his application.
Fired from three carriers (CommutAir, Air Wisconsin, and TSA) and unable to upgrade at Mesa. Perfect hire into a widebody flying cargo though!
IMO the families of the other two have grounds to sue Atlas for hiring this guy.
Last edited by Name User; 12-19-2019 at 01:02 PM.
12-19-2019, 01:00 PM
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I have to imagine there will be no media attention to this. It's good no one was killed on the ground but imagine if they augured in in downtown Houston killing hundreds on the ground. Maybe stuff would change. Maybe.
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