Envoy runway excursion in Bahamas
10-24-2020, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
Pure uninformed speculation: probably uncommanded nosewheel swerving. To my knowledge they never confidently determined what was causing that. Maybe right main l/g collapse, never seen a main l/g bent outwards like that.
I'm gonna choose to focus on the fact that, once again, the mighty 145 crashes without hurting/killing anyone. Get em slimbraer.
I'm gonna choose to focus on the fact that, once again, the mighty 145 crashes without hurting/killing anyone. Get em slimbraer.
A NWS uncommanded swerve is a possibility, but the skids from all for mains seem to possibly point in a different area.
There were several incidents with Expressjet and Republic where there were three skid patterns at different points after touchdown where the nose gear had intermittent side loading.
Just spit balling here and saying there are other possibilities as to the potential cause.
Just glad everyone is OK and hope the crew is found not to be at fault.
10-24-2020, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jacburn
Looks more like someone landed with the parking brakes on. Also looks like it spun sideways when leaving the runway and collapsed the gear to the right.
Landing with the brake set has occurred in the past for this plane. XJT.
Landing with the brake set has occurred in the past for this plane. XJT.
10-24-2020, 05:06 PM
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The mains were shredded all the way to the wheel hub from the skidding. The wheels appear to have been locked up as the tires are only shredded in one spot and the rest of the tire has full tread. Find a high resolution picture of the mains and you can see.
Last edited by Subpilot; 10-24-2020 at 05:26 PM.
10-24-2020, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Taco
Yes. They were transferring hyd fluid from sys 1 to 2 in flight and accidentally left the parking brake set.
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