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Old 05-06-2022 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
So now - over 3 years into this - is there EVER going to be an NTSB report on this mishap?
4 years now and still nothing?
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Old 05-07-2022 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Wink
4 years now and still nothing?
Non fatal accident and they still can’t figure it out.
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Old 08-16-2024 | 01:13 PM
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https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/w...esque_Isle.pdf

This was a pretty interesting read, and it has some similarities to other events around the same time.
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Old 08-17-2024 | 07:48 AM
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Executive summary....

Snow accumlated around the LOC antenna, casusing the LOC beam to be off center by 200'

Several crew (including the accident FO on a previous flight) experienced this in the preceeding five days but did not report it.

The arrival prior to the accident reported it, but FAA policy was that action would only be taken (such as placing the LOC OOS) if two or more aircraft reported problems (in case the first aircraft had bad avionics). Policy did say to switch to standby equipment, but there was no local tower to do that.

Crew kept descending below minimums with runway environment not identified, until impact.

FAA did change policy to require snow clearance around LOC antennas (previously only required around GS antennas).
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Old 08-17-2024 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Executive summary....

Snow accumlated around the LOC antenna, casusing the LOC beam to be off center by 200'

Several crew (including the accident FO on a previous flight) experienced this in the preceeding five days but did not report it.

The arrival prior to the accident reported it, but FAA policy was that action would only be taken (such as placing the LOC OOS) if two or more aircraft reported problems (in case the first aircraft had bad avionics). Policy did say to switch to standby equipment, but there was no local tower to do that.

Crew kept descending below minimums with runway environment not identified, until impact.

FAA did change policy require snow clearance around LOC antennas (previously only required around GS antennas).
In the old days, snow in Detroit meant ADF approaches in Detroit. "Push the head, pull the tail"
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Old 08-18-2024 | 08:10 AM
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Or was it "pull the head, push the tail"?
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Old 08-18-2024 | 09:06 AM
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I remember something about "Get some tail?"
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Old 08-18-2024 | 10:35 AM
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Needle, speedle, air bubble.
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Old 08-18-2024 | 11:23 AM
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"Have an abortion on the runway."
"Take it out and hold it. "
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Old 08-18-2024 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Peoplemvr;[url=tel:3829893
3829893]"Take it out and hold it. "
Po' and ho'

Mods, why, WHY does mobile platform screw up quoting?

Not just me, I see other posters quoting getting the error.
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