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03-23-2019, 11:53 AM
#202
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,888
Loc is irrelevant.
FAR 91.176
“3) Visibility and visual reference requirements. No pilot operating under this section or §§121.651, 125.381, or 135.225 of this chapter may continue an approach below the authorized DA/DH and land unless:
...
(A) The pilot must identify the runway threshold using at least one of the following visual references—
(1) The beginning of the runway landing surface;
(2) The threshold lights; or
(3) The runway end identifier lights.
(B) The pilot must identify the touchdown zone using at least one of the following visual references—
(1) The runway touchdown zone landing surface;
(2) The touchdown zone lights;
(3) The touchdown zone markings; or
(4) The runway lights.“
I think it’s safe to say these parameters were not met.
FAR 91.176
“3) Visibility and visual reference requirements. No pilot operating under this section or §§121.651, 125.381, or 135.225 of this chapter may continue an approach below the authorized DA/DH and land unless:
...
(A) The pilot must identify the runway threshold using at least one of the following visual references—
(1) The beginning of the runway landing surface;
(2) The threshold lights; or
(3) The runway end identifier lights.
(B) The pilot must identify the touchdown zone using at least one of the following visual references—
(1) The runway touchdown zone landing surface;
(2) The touchdown zone lights;
(3) The touchdown zone markings; or
(4) The runway lights.“
I think it’s safe to say these parameters were not met.
03-23-2019, 03:35 PM
#203
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,522
Originally Posted by pangolin
Prob but if the LOC received or ILS transmitter was having trouble it’s explainable - not excusable.
"Minimums."
"Runway in sight, 10 o'clock."
"Landing."
03-23-2019, 10:52 PM
#204
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Posts: 4,671
Originally Posted by jacburn
The pic in that post does not show the initial touch down spot. Only the second touch down spot after the intersecting runway.
Originally Posted by jacburn
"Radar track data show that the airplane was aligned right of runway 1 during both approaches."
Or as Phantomhawk said, reasonable people knew what happened weeks ago...
Originally Posted by ninerdriver
No, it's not, unless this is a normal set of callouts at the bottom of an ILS:
"Minimums."
"Runway in sight, 10 o'clock."
"Landing."
"Minimums."
"Runway in sight, 10 o'clock."
"Landing."
03-24-2019, 07:09 AM
#205
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
No, it's not, unless this is a normal set of callouts at the bottom of an ILS:
"Minimums."
"Runway in sight, 10 o'clock."
"Landing."
"Minimums."
"Runway in sight, 10 o'clock."
"Landing."
03-25-2019, 07:39 PM
#210
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Position: ATL FO
Posts: 189
Originally Posted by Melit
What does United think about this crash?
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