Sure. Then we should ask why Atlas had such poor training standards? Perhaps they should lose self-examination approval


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in lies the problem with PRIA.. there is a loop hole. If you get so many extra training session just to pass a MV/LOE. That won’t show up as a “unsat”. Then your “resign” do to personal reasons”. Won’t show up as a red flag. When all along it was a huge red flags.. (not saying this has anything to do with this even.. just in general.. ). They need to fix this loop hole in PRIA. And call it was it is. A “unsat” ability to pass 121 training…

(again. This is a general look at the loop hole and not at any specific event..)

As well as previous employers SHOULD have disclosed his defficincies.

Agreed, PRIA was a simple solution. And simple solutions are rarely either/neither.

PRIA is out as of last October. Pilot Records Database (PDR) is now a whole new ballgame. UAL MEC put out a long update on it and how to check your training records (all pilots) for any inaccuracies and a way to dispute it. Far more detailed than PRIA.


An excerpt from a long detailed update.


“The United MEC Training Committee would like to discuss an important subject that impacts all pilots: the FAA's Pilot Records Database (PRD). This is a significant change affecting how our professional pilot records are maintained and shared. It is critical that pilots understand what is new and how to understand your training records. With full implementation of the PRD the FAA now maintains a central repository of all key records relating to your employment for any carrier subject to the reporting requirements. Now your training records and certain other key records are collected by the FAA and maintained for the duration of your career. Read on below to understand which records are collected for the PRD, and learn how you can access your file, review it, and seek corrections for any errors.”

Getting Back to the Videos...
 

Did anyone else notice the elevator being deflected upwards right before impact? Especially the video from the cockpit
of the jet holding short that shows the impact.
I saw two videos, one from each side of the approach end of the runway where it appears that the elevator is being
deflected up to a great degree as the CRJ crossed the threshold going forward.
Just to add, the elevator appears to be pumped and not held steady in the up position.

I hear you. Of course we're all going to talk about the latest incidents & what might have gone wrong. What's wildly inappropriate IMHO, is suggesting the crew was somehow unqualified to be there based on baseless rumors and hearsay. We're all adults & should understand the concept of innocence until proven guilty. We can wait a couple weeks for the facts to come out before throwing our co-workers under the bus, can't we? While regulators aren't perfect, I'm pretty comfortable that if there are relevant facts that need to get out to the rest of us in order to operate safely, that will happen in a timely manner. In the meantime, let's realize that there are lots of people pushing various narratives out there who will unscrupulously post unverified "facts" when it furthers their agendas.

Oh, no, of course not. Clearly you do. It's ignorant and unprofessional, but clearly you do, and clearly you're not aware enough to be embarrassed by it.

You should be.

I think we can all admit none of this matters anyway because everything in the training world is so subjective. Literally short of a crash what are people pinking rides for? Every single validation event could be a failure if one looked hard enough. And every failure could be a pass if the examiner wanted to see it that way. If this was a botched landing are we going to start busting people in the sim for landings? Landings in the sim have no relation to landings in the real world.

PRD seems to only have checking events in it. Maybe it should have repeated lessons in it, maybe it shouldn't. At what point is it micro-managing? Is it fair that airline X gives trainees 8 sims and some have to repeat sims versus airline Y having 10 sims in its training course? I'm not sure there is any possible solution to this problem short of the FAA designing all 121 training programs and I don't think we want that, and they don't have the resources to do so anyway. PRD is meant to keep out people like Aska who repeatedly and consistently suck but what can be done about people who only suck a little bit?

Part 25 certification standards are supposed to make planes safe when operated by people who only suck a little bit.