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ilinipilot 12-21-2011 06:55 AM

I am glad to see that the 10 hour flight time max is not included thats one good thing I see so far.

tsquare 12-21-2011 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1105565)
I have not read all of it. These are layered rules so you have to read all of it and digest it.

I do believe that it is probably cost neutral for the DAL. The money that they are quoting is probably for the supplemental carriers.

A good starting point is page 307.

NERD 12-21-2011 07:04 AM

So. More staffing or less? Does this increase costs for our subs? If so, good.

Mesabah 12-21-2011 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1105575)
So. More staffing or less? Does this increase costs for our subs? If so, good.

No staffing changes likely, most contracts out there are already more restrictive. CDO's now look to be impossible, so whatever impact that may have is not yet known. However, I think airlines can just modify their flight schedules to accommodate these new rules with minimum staffing impact.

DeadHead 12-21-2011 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Flameout (Post 1105556)
How does this affect commuting?

I'm still trying to figure out how this would have prevented the crash in Buffalo?

I'm mean that is the whole reason for the rest requirements changing right? :confused:

shfo 12-21-2011 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1105575)
So. More staffing or less? Does this increase costs for our subs? If so, good.

More. Your subs won't be able to do 5-8 leg days with 14-16 hours of duty anymore.

The fact that it doesn't have to be implemented for two years is BS though.

tsquare 12-21-2011 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by shfo (Post 1105584)
More. Your subs won't be able to do 5-8 leg days with 14-16 hours of duty anymore.

The fact that it doesn't have to be implemented for two years is BS though.

Maybe it will accelerate the demise of the 50 seaters? Not to be taken as a shot at the regional guys' jobs, but if it does in fact mean there will be more hiring at the majors, then maybe getting rid of the 50 seaters faster will result in faster movement up the chain. I certainly hope this is the case.

shfo 12-21-2011 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1105593)
Maybe it will accelerate the demise of the 50 seaters? Not to be taken as a shot at the regional guys' jobs, but if it does in fact mean there will be more hiring at the majors, then maybe getting rid of the 50 seaters faster will result in faster movement up the chain. I certainly hope this is the case.

I fly the 50 seaters and I hope it will accelerate the demise of the 50 seaters and increase hiring at the majors.

Airway 12-21-2011 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1105580)
No staffing changes likely, most contracts out there are already more restrictive. CDO's now look to be impossible, so whatever impact that may have is not yet known. However, I think airlines can just modify their flight schedules to accommodate these new rules with minimum staffing impact.


Although I like to bid CDOs once in a while, they should have never been legal in the first place.

HercDriver130 12-21-2011 07:35 AM

I guess the lives of long haul cargo crews just aren't worth spit.... good job FAA


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