Armed pilots want more police-like power
01-22-2012, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LOBO
"The cost to put a federal air marshal on a flight is about $3,300, compared with about $15 for an armed pilot."
I bet a lot of guys are still waiting on a pay-check!!!
I bet a lot of guys are still waiting on a pay-check!!!
01-23-2012, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jungle
There ain't no PO-PO at Three Five OH.
However there are lots of people off meds, too far on meds and just freakin' crazy. The general public represents a far greater danger then "terrorists".
However there are lots of people off meds, too far on meds and just freakin' crazy. The general public represents a far greater danger then "terrorists".
What he said and besides that I,d be more concerned during check-in and security .
And I,ll say it again for the umpteenth time and that is the days of pax acting like sheep when there is a problem are over .
01-23-2012, 06:38 AM
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These are also the same guys who I would pull over and they would flash the FFDO badge and say "im a federal law enforcement officer.". Come on....abuse of the program guys..seriously!
It's endemic to the culture, where do you think FFDO's learned it from?
01-23-2012, 06:01 PM
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I don't get it do the FFDOs want to setup radar traps and get into high speed chases or something? What do they need additional police powers for? Personally I am not currently a FFDO but I am currently a sworn Reserve Deputy in Tennessee at a large agency, and it is both of my professional opinions that my duties as a pilot are not the same as my duties as a peace officer and therefore the my SIG does not need to join me at altitude.
01-24-2012, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
I'm also ex-Leo, current FFDO. The training does not compare. 5 months in an academy and on duty training vs the FFDO training. FFDO's do not need more police authority or open carry. Their mission is simple and does not require it.
I agree with that. Within the current scope of the FFDO program, the training is adequate. We probably don't need FFDO's enforcing laws outside the cockpit.
I agree with that. Within the current scope of the FFDO program, the training is adequate. We probably don't need FFDO's enforcing laws outside the cockpit.
01-24-2012, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
Vs you guys who even after being retired always carry your "brass pass" so that the brothers in blue will give you a free ride on traffic issues.
It's endemic to the culture, where do you think FFDO's learned it from?
It's endemic to the culture, where do you think FFDO's learned it from?
01-24-2012, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
The FFDO gun nuts just want to concealed carry. That's all they ever wanted.
01-24-2012, 04:17 PM
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Retired law officer here and current Corporate Flight Department manager. No way should pilots be given Law Enforcement Powers and be allowed open carry. When you carry a gun and have the responsibility of controlling it, deploying it, and exercising legal or lawful authority, it takes all of your attention and commitment… attention taken away from flying and controlling the plane. I would rather know that my pilots are secure in the cockpit and focused on getting the plane on the ground rather than playing cowboys and Indians. Acting as a law officer and deploying a firearm is a different mindset than acting as a pilot. Lets not mix the two unless the pilot has someone that can replace him in the cockpit, and he has been through a police academy and has a few years on the street learning how to be a cop. Pilots should stick to flying.
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