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JJ21 03-17-2014 03:51 PM

I would also like to point out the fact that if there was some type of emergency on FLT 370 the crew would most likely have turned the plane to that exact 90 degree turn that happened. Here is why:

1) they were half way between Malaysia & Vietnam...Where would you have gone if there was an emergency in the middle of the night, over the ocean, half way between your airline home country or fly to a foreign country?

2) the turn was the shortest route to countless airports that were long enough to land a triple 7...just google Malaysia airport map & Malaysia Airline own website

3) pilots would know there countries landmarks/Airport SID if there was in fact a emergency vs flying to Vietnam with out a radio/vfr charts handy

4) Both pilots were from the northern area of Malaysia...did they learn to fly in that area making them more familiar?

5) Turning back to their takeoff airport would have been a 180 turn and appears to be a longer distance then going to the northern Malaysia airports

6) What was the traffic volume out of their takeoff airport that time of night = possible mid air collision vs going to the less traffic airports up north.

7) Company maintenance facility on Malaysia

8) Passengers custom issues would be less because they had already been in Malaysia vs going to Vietnam pax would need to obtain visas to leave the airport to go to a hotel.

9) Dealing with 230 passengers the next day to move them to their final destination...logistic would be much easier out of Malaysia.

Taped2Seat 03-17-2014 03:53 PM

The thought of a perp driving a plane with 237 (238?) dead bodies in the back for 5+ hours gives me the creeps - to me it changes the magnitude of the crime, if indeed there was one. I hope this is wrong for the sake of their relatives and everyone involved.

A306pilot 03-17-2014 03:53 PM

Unitedflyier I found an EK one online.

Nantonaku 03-17-2014 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by A306pilot (Post 1604432)
Unitedflyier I found an EK one online.

You can build a fully functional 777 sim in your basement, UF doesn't think someone could find an emergency checklist or some schematics online? I guess he missed the memo about the age of the Internet, it started over ten years ago.

UASIT 03-17-2014 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Taped2Seat (Post 1604430)
The thought of a perp driving a plane with 237 (238?) dead bodies in the back for 5+ hours gives me the creeps - to me it changes the magnitude of the crime, if indeed there was one. I hope this is wrong for the sake of their relatives and everyone involved.

I been thinking that for a while...Just creepy to have that many dead bodies , at night, over the ocean...Waiting for the fuel to run out so you nose dive into the abyss...

What do you do? Smoke and have a few drinks...Maybe walk around whistling thru the cabin???

Timbo 03-17-2014 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by UASIT (Post 1604476)
I been thinking that for a while...Just creepy to have that many dead bodies , at night, over the ocean...Waiting for the fuel to run out so you nose dive into the abyss...

What do you do? Smoke and have a few drinks...Maybe walk around whistling thru the cabin???


You'd go all nacraphiliac on the hot corpses, of course! :eek::eek::D

Timbo 03-17-2014 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Outsider (Post 1604371)
So, I have a question.
The media is reporting that "authorities" have specific times that the Xpndr and ACARS were "turned off".
How the hell do the "authorities" know this?
My understanding is; they were not in radar contact at the time and unless ACARS was in the middle of a transmission, I don't know how they could know these times so specifically.
Am I missing something here?
Also if ACARS is off, what system is pinging the satellites?
I'm old but I don't get this.

Graybeard

I think the "authorities" are full of crap, and looking for a scapegoat. :rolleyes:

They have crappy radar coverage, crappy security at the airport, and Air Malaysia probably does crappy mx on their airplanes.

It's really easy to blame the dead pilots, rather than admit you allowed hijackers with knives/bombs on board, or you didn't do any MX on your airplanes.

Timbo 03-17-2014 06:02 PM

You're all going to want to turn on CNN right this minute, Don Lemon is going to tell us the "Warning Signs that your pilot may be suicidal..."

Even I can't make this crap up, but CNN is pretty good at it!

Taped2Seat 03-17-2014 06:04 PM

There might be an off-shoot of the SIA68 theory. What if what the radar tracked was actually SIA68 and not MH370? Radar altitude readings potentially have large margin of errors. MH370 could've dropped off radar and gone right instead of left. Focus on the left hand while the right hand does something else.

threeighteen 03-17-2014 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 1604299)
The pavement has to be thick enough to hold a widebody...big-airport runways are probably 6-10feet thick concrete.

Closer to ~16 inches.

There's obviously a softer base underneath that, but not really a requirement for a single landing and maybe a departure.

The ~16" thickness is so that the runway doesn't have to be replaced so often. You could go much much thinner for a one-time use.


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