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savall 03-17-2014 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1604610)
Air Malaysia is having financial issues. They don't subscribe to SatCom, or the higher quality (more expensive) ACARS data stream. I'll bet they don't do a whole lot of the required maintenance either.

Gee...I wonder why they would rather point fingers at the pilots than admit this airframe had a maintenance history? :rolleyes:

Dead men tell no tales so it's easier to blame them.

LKB111 03-17-2014 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1604610)
Air Malaysia is having financial issues. They don't subscribe to SatCom, or the higher quality (more expensive) ACARS data stream. I'll bet they don't do a whole lot of the required maintenance either.



Gotcha.

Thanks again for letting this non-pro participate in the discussion. I've been very curious what commercial pilots think about this whole thing. Many of us "public folk" have just enough knowledge to be dangerous in terms of concocting unlikely to ridiculous scenarios.

Just hope the mystery will be solved and all this speculation will finally give way to remembering and honoring the 239 SOB.

JJ21 03-17-2014 08:13 PM

still wonder about the oil rig worker who stated in a email to officials that he witnessed a "plane on fire" in the general area/time that FLt 370 was flying.

Bob Woodruff of NBC contacted his Japanese employer who conformed that the New Zealand citizen rig worker did work for them and that they were the ones that forwarded his email to the proper authorities in Malaysia. The oil rig operated stated that the aircraft fire lasted approx 10-15 seconds.

If you can see a aircraft flying at Fl 350 contrails during the day time why could this guy not see a aircraft on fire at night.

I have also read that an anther airline in the area was asked by ATC to try and contact Flt 370...that airliner told ATC they only hear a "buzzing noise"....could this be part of an electrical problem on Flt 370?

LKB111 03-17-2014 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1604587)

:cool: Tin foil hat time again, but.... I wonder if this could be done remotely. Not saying it happened on this flight, but what if someone could install chip in a FMS and override it from their computer on the ground... :eek:

OK, back to your originally scheduled program.

jungle 03-17-2014 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by JJ21 (Post 1604643)
still wonder about the oil rig worker who stated in a email to officials that he witnessed a "plane on fire" in the general area/time that FLt 370 was flying.

Bob Woodruff of NBC contacted his Japanese employer who conformed that the New Zealand citizen rig worker did work for them and that they were the ones that forwarded his email to the proper authorities in Malaysia. The oil rig operated stated that the aircraft fire lasted approx 10-15 seconds.

If you can see a aircraft flying at Fl 350 contrails during the day time why could this guy not see a aircraft on fire at night.

I have also read that an anther airline in the area was asked by ATC to try and contact Flt 370...that airliner told ATC they only hear a "buzzing noise"....could this be part of an electrical problem on Flt 370?

Eyewitness accounts are the least reliable of all in aviation and trial law.


Originally Posted by LKB111 (Post 1604646)
:cool: Tin foil hat time again, but.... I wonder if this could be done remotely. Not saying it happened on this flight, but what if someone could install chip in a FMS and override it from their computer on the ground... :eek:

OK, back to your originally scheduled program.

Many things are possible, but it requires a human interface to connect the FMS to the aircraft navigation. If the human doesn't like the output, he doesn't connect the two systems.

Very unlikely in a reality based scenario.

Yoda2 03-17-2014 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by LKB111 (Post 1604637)
Gotcha.

Thanks again for letting this non-pro participate in the discussion. I've been very curious what commercial pilots think about this whole thing. Many of us "public folk" have just enough knowledge to be dangerous in terms of concocting unlikely to ridiculous scenarios.

Just hope the mystery will be solved and all this speculation will finally give way to remembering and honoring the 239 SOB.

"remembering and honoring" and then referring to them as SOB's?

Thedude 03-17-2014 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Yoda2 (Post 1604653)
"remembering and honoring" and then referring to them as SOB's?

Obviously you don't know what SOB or POB means.

In most English speaking countries SOB = Souls on Board
In others and in Islamic countries POB is used and it is Persons on Board.



If you don't know those two, you probably should not be commenting in this thread.

deftone 03-17-2014 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Yoda2 (Post 1604653)
"remembering and honoring" and then referring to them as SOB's?

I assume he is meaning Souls on Board. A common term in offshore oil platform aviation, not sure about the airline world.

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Yoda2 03-17-2014 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 1604657)
Obviously you don't know what SOB or POB means.

In most English speaking countries SOB = Souls on Board
In others and in Islamic countries POB is used and it is Persons on Board.



If you don't know those two, you probably should not be commenting in this thread.

Very familiar with the terms... Thought it would take a lot more than that to get you to bite...


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