Good decision/Bad decision
03-26-2014 | 07:08 AM
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Plane Runs Low On Fuel, Sets Down on State Road 16 | WUFT News
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Father flying from Chicago to St Petersburg with daughter and her friend. Plane crashed at 4am. Father died, girls flown to hospital. No fire. With no further details looks like fuel starvation. Whatever the reason sad so close to his destination.
http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/local/20 ... y/6729105/
http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=164845
http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/local/20 ... y/6729105/
http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=164845
03-26-2014 | 07:50 AM
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You know, there's a cure for that (fuel starvation), it's called a wrist watch.
But some of these new fangled airplanes even have this gadget called a Fuel Gauge!
How these guys do this is beyond me, but then I fill my car up when it gets down to 1/4 tank too.
But some of these new fangled airplanes even have this gadget called a Fuel Gauge!
How these guys do this is beyond me, but then I fill my car up when it gets down to 1/4 tank too.
03-26-2014 | 08:09 AM
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Quote from pilot:
“I got back in the air, and I love it,” Momberg said. “It’s like riding a bicycle, you don’t really forget it.”
Except how to load up with enough fuel for the distance of his trip and also perform a little fuel rate burn calculation for this aircraft he just bought one week prior.
Yes. He is quite the great pilot that needs to get back into the air.
Let’s hope this guy does not load up any passengers while he is getting back into the air.
“I got back in the air, and I love it,” Momberg said. “It’s like riding a bicycle, you don’t really forget it.”
Except how to load up with enough fuel for the distance of his trip and also perform a little fuel rate burn calculation for this aircraft he just bought one week prior.
Yes. He is quite the great pilot that needs to get back into the air.
Let’s hope this guy does not load up any passengers while he is getting back into the air.
03-26-2014 | 08:13 AM
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But I run my car close to empty (as long as I know there will be gas available when I need it).
Say I get gas 3 times/month, that's 36 gas stops/year. If instead I do it at 1/4 tank now I make 48 stops/year.
Assume I drive from age 18-90, and that it takes ten minutes to get gas. That's 144 lost hours, or 3.5 work-weeks wasted getting gas when I didn't really need to. I'd rather take a European vacation instead.
Also the extra start-stop cycles cause engine wear, but that probably only matters if you run your cars until they need an engine overhaul.
03-26-2014 | 08:13 AM
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WRT the KPIE accident. Let's see, it's 4am in a single engine Piper; 900 nautical miles, so probably a fuel stop around midnight. What was this thinking? This is basic lessons from PP training.
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03-26-2014 | 08:30 AM
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Airplanes, yes.
But I run my car close to empty (as long as I know there will be gas available when I need it).
Say I get gas 3 times/month, that's 36 gas stops/year. If instead I do it at 1/4 tank now I make 48 stops/year.
Assume I drive from age 18-90, and that it takes ten minutes to get gas. That's 144 lost hours, or 3.5 work-weeks wasted getting gas when I didn't really need to. I'd rather take a European vacation instead.
Also the extra start-stop cycles cause engine wear, but that probably only matters if you run your cars until they need an engine overhaul.
But I run my car close to empty (as long as I know there will be gas available when I need it).
Say I get gas 3 times/month, that's 36 gas stops/year. If instead I do it at 1/4 tank now I make 48 stops/year.
Assume I drive from age 18-90, and that it takes ten minutes to get gas. That's 144 lost hours, or 3.5 work-weeks wasted getting gas when I didn't really need to. I'd rather take a European vacation instead.
Also the extra start-stop cycles cause engine wear, but that probably only matters if you run your cars until they need an engine overhaul.
http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/195
03-26-2014 | 08:37 AM
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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Airplanes, yes.
But I run my car close to empty (as long as I know there will be gas available when I need it).
Say I get gas 3 times/month, that's 36 gas stops/year. If instead I do it at 1/4 tank now I make 48 stops/year.
Assume I drive from age 18-90, and that it takes ten minutes to get gas. That's 144 lost hours, or 3.5 work-weeks wasted getting gas when I didn't really need to. I'd rather take a European vacation instead.
Also the extra start-stop cycles cause engine wear, but that probably only matters if you run your cars until they need an engine overhaul.
But I run my car close to empty (as long as I know there will be gas available when I need it).
Say I get gas 3 times/month, that's 36 gas stops/year. If instead I do it at 1/4 tank now I make 48 stops/year.
Assume I drive from age 18-90, and that it takes ten minutes to get gas. That's 144 lost hours, or 3.5 work-weeks wasted getting gas when I didn't really need to. I'd rather take a European vacation instead.
Also the extra start-stop cycles cause engine wear, but that probably only matters if you run your cars until they need an engine overhaul.
Gas Stations!
I love the fragrant men's rooms too!
Sometimes I'll -go- there on the way home, just for the ambiance.
Note to self, stop every three hours and pee, and fill up with gas. Works for both the Cub and my car!
03-26-2014 | 09:36 AM
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Can be a bad idea as most all fuel pumps have moved to the gas tank and use fuel to cool them. When you get really low on fuel the pump can become uncovered and cause premature failure.
AGCO Automotive Repair Service - Baton Rouge, LA - Detailed Auto Topics - What Causes Fuel Pumps to Fail
AGCO Automotive Repair Service - Baton Rouge, LA - Detailed Auto Topics - What Causes Fuel Pumps to Fail
03-26-2014 | 11:10 AM
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Assume I drive from age 18-90, and that it takes ten minutes to get gas. That's 144 lost hours, or 3.5 work-weeks wasted getting gas when I didn't really need to. I'd rather take a European vacation instead.
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