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USMCFLYR 11-10-2015 04:22 PM

Where is that YAWN icon?
A quote from an article/announcement isn't a disclaimer.

cardiomd - you spend MUCH more time on here telling everyone THEY don't need something than I do offering my opinion of AoA.
But you keep on with your imaginative comebacks!

And yes -- I'd love to have that gauge in my cockpit.

METO Guido 11-11-2015 10:14 AM

Never seen anything like that. Green is on target pitch, red is too high, what's yellow doing? Only air-cooled engine I got runs a pressure cleaner pump. But I suppose if I was fortunate enough, wealthy enough, to be an airplane owner...no I wouldn't cough up the extra 3K or chop up my glare-shield unless I had too. Is there a rule change pending?

FDXLAG 11-11-2015 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 2008843)
Where is that YAWN icon?
A quote from an article/announcement isn't a disclaimer.

cardiomd - you spend MUCH more time on here telling everyone THEY don't need something than I do offering my opinion of AoA.
But you keep on with your imaginative comebacks!

And yes -- I'd love to have that gauge in my cockpit.

I had to give up, if you claimed in a thread on single malts that Oban is near the top Doc would retort that you are trying to force him into giving up his Jim Beam.

USMCFLYR 11-11-2015 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 2009170)
Never seen anything like that. Green is on target pitch, red is too high, what's yellow doing? Only air-cooled engine I got runs a pressure cleaner pump. But I suppose if I was fortunate enough, wealthy enough, to be an airplane owner...no I wouldn't cough up the extra 3K or chop up my glare-shield unless I had too. Is there a rule change pending?

The only rule change were ones making it EASIER to put an AoA in your plane IF you wanted one.

Bumper 11-17-2015 01:18 PM

http://1.usa.gov/1STI0Sd

Just this emailed to me from FAAsafety.gov

WhistlePig 11-17-2015 02:15 PM

I'd like one with an amber on-speed donut, and green slow/red fast chevrons. But that's just personal preference :D

USMCFLYR 12-01-2015 07:57 AM

A very good and detailed description of some of the benefits that some might find with an installed AoA system for GA aircraft.

Why We Fly Alpha

I've had a little interaction with two of the participants and find their work to be very helpful. Thanks for the efforts gentlemen.

RhinoPherret 12-01-2015 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 2019469)
A very good and detailed description of some of the benefits that some might find with an installed AoA system for GA aircraft.

Why We Fly Alpha

I've had a little interaction with two of the participants and find their work to be very helpful. Thanks for the efforts gentlemen.

Great article!
Very informative and bears out what a lot of us already knew and why we use AOA.

cardiomd 06-14-2016 06:12 AM

Another SR20 down in typical fashion. :( In order to fly this plane safely, you must understand it, why she couldn't get down quickly, and why she spun it in the pattern.

Kathryn's Report: Cirrus SR20, N4252G, Safe Aviation LLC: Fatal accident occurred June 09, 2016 near Hobby Airport (KHOU), Houston, Texas

And a quote I wrote a few years ago (my bolding):



Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 1919589)
Despite this, I like the plane. I very nearly bought one, and they are much more affordable than even a new Cessna 182 (SR20 is half the price). However, I like the joy of flight too much to fly the spring-loaded plane that needs to be operated in such a fashion - again, I would not "have fun" or explore the envelope in this plane. It is a high performance transport craft and should be respected as such.

In fact, I might even want an AOA gauge if I flew a plane with the SR22's airfoil, (much as I would want one if I flew an F-16 or an A320.)

But, I don't, so I don't. ;)


rickair7777 06-14-2016 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 2144856)
Another SR20 down in typical fashion. :( In order to fly this plane safely, you must understand it, why she couldn't get down quickly, and why she spun it in the pattern.

Kathryn's Report: Cirrus SR20, N4252G, Safe Aviation LLC: Fatal accident occurred June 09, 2016 near Hobby Airport (KHOU), Houston, Texas

And a quote I wrote a few years ago (my bolding):


Wonder if any ATC changes will come out of this one, sure looks like ATC might be a contributing factor...bet she wouldn't have crashed if she had got a long base to a nice stable 3-4 mile final.


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