Mesa Airlines Accident

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Random guy just happens to take a sensational photo, falls under the microscopic lens of Internet and suddenly "MESA IS THE WORST" starts gettin shouted around. For **** sake guys... get off your high horse. Every airline has an incident (wing strike) from time to time. ASA nearly lost a plane in Chattanooga few years back but that barely got any news. Why? No photo/video of windshear slamming aircraft into touchdown zone.

Had this photo not been taken, this thread wouldn't exist.
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Quote: You need to go back to regs class. There is no way that this is an incident. The inspection alone would cost over $25,000 and that is an accident..
How do you know the inspection would cost north of $25,000?

You have a CL65 maintenance manual in front of you?

I bet you could drop every panel on that wing and if there isn't any significant structural damage to the wing structure you aren't close to $25k...even paying $100/hr for labor.
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Now watch me whip...whip. Watch me nae nae (Can you do it?).
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Quote: How do you know the inspection would cost north of $25,000?

You have a CL65 maintenance manual in front of you?

I bet you could drop every panel on that wing and if there isn't any significant structural damage to the wing structure you aren't close to $25k...even paying $100/hr for labor.
I'm betting a full spar check is called for. So I can easily see it being $100,000+. Entire plane taken apart.
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Quote: You need to go back to regs class. There is no way that this is an incident. The inspection alone would cost over $25,000 and that is an accident..
Maybe you should go back to regs class. It's classified as an accident if there is more than $25,000 in personal property damage, other then the aircraft. The damage cost to the aircraft doesn't count toward that number, only damage to other property. Lets say that the runway now has $25,000 in damages, then it's classified as an accident.


And I'd look it up for you to save you some time....

http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx...dno=49;cc=ecfr

CFR 49.830.5.a.6

(6) Damage to property, other than the aircraft, estimated to exceed $25,000 for repair (including materials and labor) or fair market value in the event of total loss, whichever is less.
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Does anyone know if the crew actually tried to pass this off to the outbound crew or is that pure speculation?

Hey we all make mistakes and no one is perfect so cut these guys some slack unless they tried to pass this off to the outbound crew, then burn them at the stake.
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Quote: Does anyone know if the crew actually tried to pass this off to the outbound crew or is that pure speculation?

Hey we all make mistakes and no one is perfect so cut these guys some slack unless they tried to pass this off to the outbound crew, then burn them at the stake.
Agreed.
But to make this a Mesa issue like some people are doing... Just ain't right. How about Skywest and their high altitude stall issues, the recent Airways 321 tail strike, the United 737 that went off the high speed into the mud in Houston this past spring, the recent SWA/DL runway incursion in MDW... Regardless of airline, experience or any other ridiculous factors that people point fingers at; this stuff can happen to anyone. We all need to stay in the game and stay vigilant... Not just "Mesa pilots." Stuff happens everyday to every airline. Like someone posted earlier, this only caught traction because of the dramatic picture.
Weird stuff happens. Frankly, what if this was the BEST possible outcome of this situation? What if they're lucky to have only dragged the wingtip based on the condition they experienced... Even a wind shear loss/gain of 5 knots or a wicked thermal close to the ground can do weird stuff.
The proud Internet regional airline super pilot warriors feed on stuff like this for a dick measuring contest. But go look at some recent history. All of our employers have them. Even the mighty "Mainline Skywest."
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Quote: Eagle had 4 stalls in one month when I was there. Get over yourself.
Excuse me???
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Quote: Excuse me???
So offended... "No no no, not MY regional!!!!"
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Quote: Random guy just happens to take a sensational photo, falls under the microscopic lens of Internet and suddenly "MESA IS THE WORST" starts gettin shouted around. For **** sake guys... get off your high horse. Every airline has an incident (wing strike) from time to time. ASA nearly lost a plane in Chattanooga few years back but that barely got any news. Why? No photo/video of windshear slamming aircraft into touchdown zone.

Had this photo not been taken, this thread wouldn't exist.
Wind shear is another animal, versus a 10 knot wind landing. Granted, the wind shear event was due to crew error, as well. The issue is people shame the low-quality carriers because of their practices. Not too long ago, it was Great Lakes, then Mesa, now PSA; there will always be a low-quality carrier that people rag on. Pilots complain, that's what we do, some more than others.
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