Mike Pence airplane slides off runway
10-27-2016, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
Juice,
I've been at two corporate operators and a friend at a third where "accidents" happened--nada, zilch, zero firings. Employers don't fire guys like airline guys suppose. I had to go around recently at BDL, DL was landing on the cross runway and slowed but was clearly going thru the intersection where we were going to meet. I just asked the to confirm landing clearance, got the "go around, report downwind", end of story. If you listened to DL, you would have thought they were about to violated, fined and fired. "We didn't a miss a call,did you ask us to hold short, neither of heard any instruction to hold". They were still going when I got to downwind
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I've been at two corporate operators and a friend at a third where "accidents" happened--nada, zilch, zero firings. Employers don't fire guys like airline guys suppose. I had to go around recently at BDL, DL was landing on the cross runway and slowed but was clearly going thru the intersection where we were going to meet. I just asked the to confirm landing clearance, got the "go around, report downwind", end of story. If you listened to DL, you would have thought they were about to violated, fined and fired. "We didn't a miss a call,did you ask us to hold short, neither of heard any instruction to hold". They were still going when I got to downwind
GF
10-27-2016, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sled14
And what are their limitations for tailwind? These look like the metars at the time of landing, looks like more a crosswind than anything.
KLGA 272217Z 11010KT 3SM +RA BKN013 OVC018 13/11 A3015 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 4 P0004 T01330106 VISNO R22 SW $
KLGA 272351Z 10010G15KT 3SM RA BR OVC010 13/12 A3010 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 4 SLP192 P0032 60061 T01330117 10139 20072 58018 $
KLGA 272217Z 11010KT 3SM +RA BKN013 OVC018 13/11 A3015 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 4 P0004 T01330106 VISNO R22 SW $
KLGA 272351Z 10010G15KT 3SM RA BR OVC010 13/12 A3010 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 4 SLP192 P0032 60061 T01330117 10139 20072 58018 $
What in the world makes you think that is solely a crosswind? Even more reason not to do it, a tailwind and a crosswind.
10-28-2016, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
Good God, I hate that response. Yes, X may be the LIMITATION for a tailwind, that does not make it safe or smart to take it up to that limit. I hear that sh*t all the time on the line. Sure, on a sunny, clear day with 12000 feet of runway... fine. In LGA, at night, in heavy rain.... ******* no.
What in the world makes you think that is solely a crosswind? Even more reason not to do it, a tailwind and a crosswind.
What in the world makes you think that is solely a crosswind? Even more reason not to do it, a tailwind and a crosswind.
10-28-2016, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
That's because the FAA loves going after the certificates of airline guys.
10-28-2016, 03:57 AM
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With the history of runway incursions at LGA we need to be more judicious in the use of the phrase "unable" and "go around" with ANY tailwind component on a slick runway at LGA. If enough us us press the test button they'll flip the airport. They wait as long as they can to flip it because of the high workload it causes. Well....too damn bad
10-28-2016, 04:11 AM
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Presentation of the plane and the pilots:
Donald Trump's 'Make America Great Again' plane wrapped in STAR TREK artwork | Daily Mail Online
Donald Trump's 'Make America Great Again' plane wrapped in STAR TREK artwork | Daily Mail Online
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