I used to love crew room sorry time too, but you need to step back and evaluate what you are told.


United dictates where the 175s go, cheapest option first. UAL faces the same problem AA faces when the thought of putting RJ’s on the certificate comes up. You gonna go to UAL and fly RJ’s? Or go to AA/DAL/SWA and fly mainline equipment?? How many well qualified pilots will a valid going to UA at the thought of having to fly RJ’s over there vs. bigger planes elsewhere

It’s cheaper for mainline to kick the RJ’s around at the lowest bidding contractor until they get their value out of the planes. Never gonna happen putting them on mainline pay rates

Goes to my earlier question.

Where would UA put them? Because a (depreciating) asset sitting on the ground doesn't make anyone any money. So where would UA put them?

and during the summer of last year everyone would have laughed if people were whispering about rumors of mesa paying $100 to start

Um yea, United is not going to operate an aircraft that is also used by their regional partners, especially at the increased cost per seat mile that would cause. Ever asked yourself why there are pay scales?

1) I'd still go to United tomorrow. It's about establishing seniority, QOL, and career progression. It's also about which legacy has the best prospects for the next 30 years...

2) Mainline pay rates are lower... $213.75 / hr CA at the Eagle carriers. Starts at $174.97 CRJ CA @ UAL with top of scale at $190.

pay attention
Aviate graduates with an ATP will go to the 175s that United will put on their certificate
Pay will be the same as Mesa . Who do you think pays this huge pay increases in pay Mesa got ?

Lack of pilots and scope ( max 253 for contractors) is the issue and there is a need of 400 or so 175s to feed the expansion United is planning for the next 4years
1200 aircraft fleet is the talk with all orders by 2027

Finally after these decades of fighting against a B scale, we have achieved a B scale. /s

Would this open up more large RJs at UNITED? Clever

no it wouldn’t. To get more large RJ’s at the regionals you need UA to get an E195/A220 to unlock more RJ’s

Pay attention.

175s are not going to be flown by mainline. Period.

thats not what UAL ALPA thinks for their Future TA….if they ask for scope relief
94% No voters last time around . Not an inch not a dollar of scope relief

again pay attention scope is maxed at 253 and 38 175s will be parked to accommodate the 900s