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Originally Posted by eaglefly
...the problem with your "fact" is that the most apt phrase in your post above is "right now". It seems to be a phrase you have difficulty including in the context of your sales pitches. For that to hold true in the future, AAG MUST commit to Envoy and Envoy MUST demonstrate it can hire AND RETAIN enough pilots to make that work.
So far, those components don't exist and THAT is FACT. Like your fellow sales associate said, "the world changes" and thus what happens "right now" may not be able to happen in the future. 6 years is a LIFETIME in this business in regards to changing worlds and equating what is happening at Envoy right now to the remainder of the arbitrational awarded "824" pilots is NO GUARANTEE of ANYTHING for those subject to a simple contractual agreement like the Protected Pilots Agreement (PPA) months or years down the road. Mix that in conjunction that Envoy will be morphing drastically into a different feed provider due to significant contraction and you can't even guarantee Envoy will exist in 6 years in present form, let alone smoothly flowing a new-hire of today.
The fact remains.. And I could even say over the past 5 years with confidence Eagle has supplied more LEGACY pilots than any other Regional. I don't know the exact number outside of the flow, nobody does.. but approximately 550-600 or so is a safe # to a Legacy carrier over the last 5 years. Nobody else can claim that. Not even close. Most of it being over the last 2 years.
Nobody can predict the future in this industry, but right now we know the flow IS moving pilots every month + 4-5 or so going to Legacy carriers via direct hire per month. Then all other LCC/cargo/foreign/corporate attrition on top of that every month. We have the highest attrition in the industry. Yes some is lateral , mostly in the beginning of this year, but most now isn't. No signs it is stopping anytime soon either, flow could always slow temporarily due to any number of reasons (which will slow others getting hired from outside carriers as well), but it's not going to stop without a major incident or disaster. It's arbitrated awards, arbitrated agreements and contractual. Retirements are coming.. It is inevitable. Even if they did a worse case scenario and delay it again to age 67 or some crap. (Which would also slow everyone else at other carriers).
So again.. How many other regionals have as many pilots per month going to a "LEGACY" carrier as Eagle does (with our Flow + outside Legacy attrition)??
Answer = 0
We are putting more pilots at Legacy carriers than anyone else right now and for the forseeable future. Vast majority being AA.
You can't argue with that. It's still a fact.