Envoy to get 100% flow to AA.
06-18-2015, 03:56 PM
#91
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
The RJ fleet count for AA is tied to the number of narrowbody aircraft at mainline. The retirement schedules and now delivery deferrals will limit the ability to add further large RJ's absent another change to the narrowbody retirement schedule.
06-18-2015, 06:12 PM
#92
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Originally Posted by air101
If AA needed them, they wouldn't be options, they would be orders. It was just a carrot dangled out there to get Envoy to vote yes. AAG is not committed to the options.
06-18-2015, 06:24 PM
#94
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
They would be stupid to do that. Who's going to fly them when they start arriving in 2016 and 2017? There won't be anyone left to fly them, bad investment.
06-18-2015, 06:43 PM
#95
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Originally Posted by air101
They haven't invested in anything beyond 40.... that's why they are options. The 40 will show up, beyond that. not so much.
I'm fine with never having to go to PBS...
06-18-2015, 06:53 PM
#96
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Originally Posted by snippercr
Have you looked at the price of a CRJ from Bombardier? Especially what they are willing to do to sell more? Embraer would have to really sweeten the pot if they hope to get AA to exercise any of those options (envoy or republic). Then expect Parker and co to come to envoy IF they chose to exercise the options and say "either you take xyz concessions or we go with the other carriers options."
I'm fine with never having to go to PBS...
I'm fine with never having to go to PBS...
06-18-2015, 07:24 PM
#99
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Originally Posted by LeadFoot
Doesn't RAH have a firm order for 47 E175's? That contract agreement is with American, and there is no word of cancelled orders from them.
06-19-2015, 03:12 AM
#100
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
The RJ fleet count for AA is tied to the number of narrowbody aircraft at mainline. The retirement schedules and now delivery deferrals will limit the ability to add further large RJ's absent another change to the narrowbody retirement schedule.
It's exactly what I said. Whomever has the pilots will get their options exercised. Whomever can't, won't.
we're shrinking because our flow is working. Our attrition is not much greater than our hiring if you remove the flow.
We lose 35-40
20 are flows
We hire an average of 15, some months more, some months less.
Our attrition is mostly due to flow. We are the incredible shrinking airline because 62% of all new hires at AA have come from Envoy. The sooner people realize it's working, the sooner they can get in line.
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