I love it when one comrade hails his fellow caller while simultaneously trumpeting a dream.

Once more unto the breach, dear friends...........

 

Your options essentially just vaporized for the most part with AAG's announcement of Airbus delivery deferrals just the other day. At this point, barring some additional fleet wrangling at AA which is unlikely, you can kiss those options (or all but a handful) goodbye.

I'm sorry.

 

I guess I should add that eaglefly has been blocked for a few days now due to his incessant trolling and the mods refusal to do anything about it.

 

[/QUOTE] If I were an entry-level prospective pilot, I'd make my choice of a regional as one based more on tangible factors then hypothetical ones and if I were already at a given regional (at least one that flies RJ's for a legacy), I'd stay put and let the industry evolve more to get a better handle of what is a good next move, if any.[/QUOTE]

Which airlines might those be? They're all struggling right now in some form.

 

Don't be sorry, you are not going to see the flyingiat mainline either.
I remember an e135/140 beating out scope a few years ago. Deliveries are timing. I would wait til 2017 and see.

 

I've been "blocked" for the last few days ?

This is not true. I can assure all here, I'm quite regular and ensure that by getting the necessary amount of fiber and staying hydrated.

I do understand though that one of your hopeful strategies is to get me "silenced" as then you can continue your misrepresentations and sales pitches unimpeded as evidenced by your continued misapplication of "trolling" and now attacking the mods for not assisting you. Look, we definitely disagree and I have never made a post demanding you or any of your other cadre be silenced by others or silencing yourself. I do reserve the right for rebuttal to your claims though and isn't that what this forum is for ? If you read any number of threads, there is PLENTY of conflict and disagreement on various subjects and this subject is no different.

In fact, if anyone is to be banned, it should be RJ pilot who is STILL attempting to out me just again this afternoon on the other Envoy thread (what are we up to now over the last year or so, 30 or more times ?) or those of you who engage in name-calling as sport.

 

The fact remains.. And I could even say over the past 5 years with confidence Eagle has supplied more LEGACY pilots than any other Regional. I don't know the exact number outside of the flow, nobody does.. but approximately 550-600 or so is a safe # to a Legacy carrier over the last 5 years. Nobody else can claim that. Not even close. Most of it being over the last 2 years.

Nobody can predict the future in this industry, but right now we know the flow IS moving pilots every month + 4-5 or so going to Legacy carriers via direct hire per month. Then all other LCC/cargo/foreign/corporate attrition on top of that every month. We have the highest attrition in the industry. Yes some is lateral , mostly in the beginning of this year, but most now isn't. No signs it is stopping anytime soon either, flow could always slow temporarily due to any number of reasons (which will slow others getting hired from outside carriers as well), but it's not going to stop without a major incident or disaster. It's arbitrated awards, arbitrated agreements and contractual. Retirements are coming.. It is inevitable. Even if they did a worse case scenario and delay it again to age 67 or some crap. (Which would also slow everyone else at other carriers).


So again.. How many other regionals have as many pilots per month going to a "LEGACY" carrier as Eagle does (with our Flow + outside Legacy attrition)??

Answer = 0

We are putting more pilots at Legacy carriers than anyone else right now and for the forseeable future. Vast majority being AA.

You can't argue with that. It's still a fact.

 

Will "today" transfer to those NOT in the "824", including most junior Envoy pilots and those not yet hired ?

No one can guarantee that, although some appear to be trying. I suppose we'll have to watch the show over the next 6-12 months and see how Envoy and its upgrade/flow projections morph. That's my advice to those not at Envoy and those who are and more junior wont likely pass up any offers to other legacies, LCC's or various other better jobs that pay $$$ and offer tangible things instead of hypotheticals. Hey, the 824 are likely in good shape (at least most of them and that includes Cujo and some of the other MEC guys), but perhaps that's all that matters to them. Personally, that's what I think.

As for you or those subject to the PPA ?

Well,..............good luck !

....and I mean that. I hope it works out for you.

 

I don't want to speak for him, but when he says tangible, I think he is probably referring to things such as living in your base without commuting, or pay, or quality of life items such as upgrade time or low reserve time.

 

So many words in your posts...you are obviously an intelligent individual and are familiar with the Internet. Therefore, you should realize that most posters will not take the time to read your wordy and blustery posts. If you want to be taken as anything more than sound and fury signifying nothing, state your point without being such a dramatist.