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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
So how many truck should an airline have before they are classified under the NLRA. Do maintenance truck count? How about tugs? Baggage carts? What is the appropriate number?
A truck is a truck. A plane is a plane. If the truck does not leave the airport ramp then that could be classified under airline ops.. If it is registered with the appropriate state and travels on public roads then it is the same as every other delivery company on the planet except Fed Ex. Tugs, same thing if they are driven on public roads and not on airport property, carts too. I have yet to see a tug or baggage cart deliver my package in my neighborhood.
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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
So, should airline caterers and cleaners be classified under the NLRA or the RLA? They do the same job as hotel cleaners and caterers. Hint: They have been found to be able to organize under the RLA. How about truck mechanics?
Most caterers and catering trucks never leave airport property unlike Fed Ex Trucks. I live by two major airports and when I worked, I flew almost every week. I have yet to see a catering truck off airport property. Cleaners too they work at the airport on airport property. They don't work off airport property. I have yet to see the catering truck with a cleaner deliver my package in my neighborhood. I've seen Fed Ex and UPS though. The Post Office is at airports How many Fed Ex trucks leave airport grounds and drive on public roads delivering packages. How many Fed Ex centers are off airport grounds and a tractor trailer delivers packages to thos centers off airport grounds? If truck mechanics are again based on airport property and fix trucks that are used on airport property IE the old yellow UPS Package Cars then yes they should be classified under RLA because they are involved in Airline ops sustaining the airline on airport property. If Fed Ex trucks never leave airport property then yep RLA.
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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
That makes our point. They are integral to the airline. The truck drivers and airline pilots do the same job, just a different vehicle. Therefore, RLA. Maybe UPS should break out their air division trucks and their ground division trucks and organize the air division side under the RLA, and their ground division under the NLRA, just like FedEx does.
Thats your point and we have ours. The functions posted above are integral to an airline on Airport property. Off airport property they function as a package delivery company and should be calssified as such. Just like every other delivery company that has airline ops. How come Fed Ex should have any exception than anybody else. UPS did do that in 1996 and Fred lobbied against it and UPS lost. The Teamsters did not support it then because it would affect peoples jobs and reduce peoples income. IE Fed Ex.
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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
Oh yeah, you never posted the pictures of the FedEx ground driver handling Express packages and vice versa. I'd like to see those, because I contend that it NEVER happens.
I was shown those in confidence. I will ask if I can post them for you to see. I will post tomorrow a couple of Fed Ex Smart Post tracking results. You can check under the Fed Ex Ground Site that smart post is under Fed Ex Ground. Thes packages went air though. The results will show that a package going from Dallas to Atalanta made it in under 8 hours. You cannot drive that by automobile in 8 hours. A train will not make it in 8 hours. I have a few examples of this to show if you want to see. I have to upload them to Flickr and they are on my other computer.
I appreciate good debate. You make some good points. Thank you.