Corporate Air Bleeds Purple
07-10-2010, 02:11 PM
#61
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Originally Posted by golfandfly
soya,
Maybe you should spend more time looking for work than arguing with pilots on a message board. Just an idea.
Of course Fred doesn't want employees to be able to unionize on a local level. It is about green. If these employees want to unionize, they have a means to do so, just like the pilots. I could care less if they unionize or not, just because I belong to a union doesn't mean I think everyone should be unionized. If they are being mistreated or underpaid, send out notices and vote in a union.
Is he using the 777 order to put pressure on some in Congress? Absolutely. Is anyone denying this? Is UPS putting political pressure to change Fedex's status? Absolutely.
Sounds also like you'd be a terrible employer. You'd give away the store and then we'd all be laid off. Fred Smith is trying to keep costs down. Isn't that his job? While keeping costs down, Fedex continually makes the "top places to work" list. Why would he want to level the playing field?
Your posts are nonsense. Go find a job
Maybe you should spend more time looking for work than arguing with pilots on a message board. Just an idea.
Of course Fred doesn't want employees to be able to unionize on a local level. It is about green. If these employees want to unionize, they have a means to do so, just like the pilots. I could care less if they unionize or not, just because I belong to a union doesn't mean I think everyone should be unionized. If they are being mistreated or underpaid, send out notices and vote in a union.
Is he using the 777 order to put pressure on some in Congress? Absolutely. Is anyone denying this? Is UPS putting political pressure to change Fedex's status? Absolutely.
Sounds also like you'd be a terrible employer. You'd give away the store and then we'd all be laid off. Fred Smith is trying to keep costs down. Isn't that his job? While keeping costs down, Fedex continually makes the "top places to work" list. Why would he want to level the playing field?
Your posts are nonsense. Go find a job
As mentioned before I am looking for a job. I'm alright though since I was fiscally responsible. I'm actually getting a kick out of pi$$ing you off. Why are you so hell bent on calling names like some of your other Purple Buddies? I could say why don't you do like your user name and GOLFANDFLY. Ooops I just did sorry
I sound like I'd be a terrible employer, so what would you do then? Nothing like Fred keeping costs down like having 11 corporate jets and using unfair competitive advantages at the expense of others.
My posts are nonsense? Then why did you respond if thats the case? Are you afraid Fed Ex will lose its status and Fred will pull the plug on Express??? We all Know he has never thrown that tantrum in the past.
A person who I think I can call a friend mentioned Hitler, Saddam, Pinochet, all had people who would lay down for them. Fred is no different. You should change your name to Heinrich Luitpold Himmler. Call Gunt or FedExLag when that purple koolaid IV runs out.
Last edited by Soyathink; 07-10-2010 at 03:43 PM.
07-10-2010, 02:14 PM
#62
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Originally Posted by golfandfly
soya,
Maybe you should spend more time looking for work than arguing with pilots on a message board. Just an idea.
Of course Fred doesn't want employees to be able to unionize on a local level. It is about green. If these employees want to unionize, they have a means to do so, just like the pilots. I could care less if they unionize or not, just because I belong to a union doesn't mean I think everyone should be unionized. If they are being mistreated or underpaid, send out notices and vote in a union.
Is he using the 777 order to put pressure on some in Congress? Absolutely. Is anyone denying this? Is UPS putting political pressure to change Fedex's status? Absolutely.
Sounds also like you'd be a terrible employer. You'd give away the store and then we'd all be laid off. Fred Smith is trying to keep costs down. Isn't that his job? While keeping costs down, Fedex continually makes the "top places to work" list. Why would he want to level the playing field?
Your posts are nonsense. Go find a job
Maybe you should spend more time looking for work than arguing with pilots on a message board. Just an idea.
Of course Fred doesn't want employees to be able to unionize on a local level. It is about green. If these employees want to unionize, they have a means to do so, just like the pilots. I could care less if they unionize or not, just because I belong to a union doesn't mean I think everyone should be unionized. If they are being mistreated or underpaid, send out notices and vote in a union.
Is he using the 777 order to put pressure on some in Congress? Absolutely. Is anyone denying this? Is UPS putting political pressure to change Fedex's status? Absolutely.
Sounds also like you'd be a terrible employer. You'd give away the store and then we'd all be laid off. Fred Smith is trying to keep costs down. Isn't that his job? While keeping costs down, Fedex continually makes the "top places to work" list. Why would he want to level the playing field?
Your posts are nonsense. Go find a job
Amen brother, I just talked to JeanLuc and he said this thread reminds him of the ritualistic beatings and fingernails scratched on a blackboard that so often caused him to seek layovers in the UP!
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07-10-2010, 02:42 PM
#64
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My posts got started by people here bashing UPS regarding furloughs while bragging Fed Ex is growing. Some have legit reasons to bash UPS and I will agree with them. Alot don't or people like Gunt just like to start rumours and stir the pot when he and alot of others don't even work for UPS or know much about UPS.
You never heard about after the 1997 UPS strike how many UPS people lost jobs? Some of you UPS guys might know that after that in 1998 UPS realigned districts and regions like what just happened recently and cost 1800 jobs plus up to 300 UPS Pilot jobs. I saw friends lose jobs. I saw my family have to move if they wanted a job. Not one pilot was furloughed then. Alot of managers and admin positions were eliminated then.
Some of you know what MIP is at UPS. Ask someone if MIP is the same as it once was and if it has changed for the worse if your a manager but better for the company? (Mip=Management Incentive Plan). You don't hear about that on the crewbus though. Should UPS release or reassign FQS'? Yes they should but on the other hand they can grind them down to a nub without retribution. The FQS can quit if he doesn't like it or have a job and do it. I don't agree with it just like I don't agree with Fed Ex unfairly taking volume under RLA or independent contractors. When UPS struck how many managers, CEO, executives came out and said they would replace the striking workers??? Instead they tried to invoke Taft Hartley which Fred's buddy in DC wouldn't invoke. Google Taft Hartley. Look at how much then UPS transported of the nations GDP? But yet Taft Hartley wouldn't be invoked. UPS still worked with Union Representatives to settle the strike. We again all know what Fred would do
Create a level playing field, let FDX Express TRUCK DRIVERS decide. Let FDX Ground drivers go with their class action suits regarding employee status. Let Fed Ex Ground drivers unionize if they want. Let UPS regain lost volume in a fair playing field and get the pilots and others back to work. .
You never heard about after the 1997 UPS strike how many UPS people lost jobs? Some of you UPS guys might know that after that in 1998 UPS realigned districts and regions like what just happened recently and cost 1800 jobs plus up to 300 UPS Pilot jobs. I saw friends lose jobs. I saw my family have to move if they wanted a job. Not one pilot was furloughed then. Alot of managers and admin positions were eliminated then.
Some of you know what MIP is at UPS. Ask someone if MIP is the same as it once was and if it has changed for the worse if your a manager but better for the company? (Mip=Management Incentive Plan). You don't hear about that on the crewbus though. Should UPS release or reassign FQS'? Yes they should but on the other hand they can grind them down to a nub without retribution. The FQS can quit if he doesn't like it or have a job and do it. I don't agree with it just like I don't agree with Fed Ex unfairly taking volume under RLA or independent contractors. When UPS struck how many managers, CEO, executives came out and said they would replace the striking workers??? Instead they tried to invoke Taft Hartley which Fred's buddy in DC wouldn't invoke. Google Taft Hartley. Look at how much then UPS transported of the nations GDP? But yet Taft Hartley wouldn't be invoked. UPS still worked with Union Representatives to settle the strike. We again all know what Fred would do
Create a level playing field, let FDX Express TRUCK DRIVERS decide. Let FDX Ground drivers go with their class action suits regarding employee status. Let Fed Ex Ground drivers unionize if they want. Let UPS regain lost volume in a fair playing field and get the pilots and others back to work. .
Last edited by Soyathink; 07-10-2010 at 03:56 PM.
07-10-2010, 02:45 PM
#65
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
I offer the above post for any future replys to sojudrink. Instead of quoting his post and subjecting the rest of us to his "original thinking" just use this. We will know who you are replying to.
You call me a "liar"Why are you Fed Ex Guys so worried Huh? Why is this such a big deal to you huh?
Worried about this? :
"If that were to happen, I can promise you that the board of directors of FedEx Corp. would reduce the amount that we invest in [FedEx Express], to the point where it was just purely a sustenance level," said Chief Executive Frederick Smith, according to a report Sunday in the Commercial Appeal of Memphis.
Smith added that the company would be forced to halt fleet and employment growth, the newspaper said.
So I ask you to reply with some educated responses and facts rebutting what I have said instead of stupid pictures or insults. You should think about changing your name to Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel. Maybe not because Rommel ended up turning on Adolph in the end.
I'm just glad your not mentioning my typos and misspells. I'm sure thats coming next though.
Last edited by Soyathink; 07-10-2010 at 03:37 PM.
07-10-2010, 07:08 PM
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SOYA,
OK. I think we all get it. You think that FDX should be operating under the NLRA. If that happens, all will be well at UPS and they will then gain back their marketshare, recall their pilots and we will all live happily ever after.
Thank you for your participation here on APC. We've enjoyed your input, and understand everything that you've taken the time to explain to us.
Now, since you've clarified why FDX should be operating under the NLRA, and how that will solve UPS's problem...Perhaps you could go help out with the USAir pilot's seniority integration issue. Or maybe assist in the UAL/CAL merger. Congress is even involved. Gosh, some of those guys could really use someone like you, they just don't understand how it should be.
And to show you my gratitude...I'm including a link, to make easy for you to move to the right threads:
Mergers and Aquisitions
Good luck. We're all counting on you.
OK. I think we all get it. You think that FDX should be operating under the NLRA. If that happens, all will be well at UPS and they will then gain back their marketshare, recall their pilots and we will all live happily ever after.
Thank you for your participation here on APC. We've enjoyed your input, and understand everything that you've taken the time to explain to us.
Now, since you've clarified why FDX should be operating under the NLRA, and how that will solve UPS's problem...Perhaps you could go help out with the USAir pilot's seniority integration issue. Or maybe assist in the UAL/CAL merger. Congress is even involved. Gosh, some of those guys could really use someone like you, they just don't understand how it should be.
And to show you my gratitude...I'm including a link, to make easy for you to move to the right threads:
Mergers and Aquisitions
Good luck. We're all counting on you.
Last edited by Busboy; 07-10-2010 at 07:27 PM.
07-11-2010, 08:03 AM
#69
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Originally Posted by Soyathink
So how many airlines own over 41,000 trucks? That isn't hiding under the law?
Originally Posted by Soyathink
Business is open to competition but when one company is governed under one law and manipulates it while the other isn't and cannot then????
Originally Posted by Soyathink
I povided links in other thread and on this one that Fed Ex Express said if the pilots struck they would divert volume to their 40,000 trucks and lease aircraft and crews. I though they are an airline? How can they divert volume to trucks when they are an airline?
Oh yeah, you never posted the pictures of the FedEx ground driver handling Express packages and vice versa. I'd like to see those, because I contend that it NEVER happens.
07-11-2010, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by golfandfly
This guy is just a peckerhead that enjoys a response from his nonsense. Maybe he is using his dad's computer.
Very educated response your parents must be proud of you after all those years riding the shortbus. I'm thinking you will reply back with your mom jokes next. Keep up the great work. Nice language
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