golfandfly

I'll bet your parents are totally impressed with their unemployed son spending his time on an airline pilot's message board.

I don't take this seriously, so your attempts to be confrontational don't ruin my day.

Soyathink

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Soyathink

A truck is a truck. A plane is a plane. If the truck does not leave the airport ramp then that could be classified under airline ops.. If it is registered with the appropriate state and travels on public roads then it is the same as every other delivery company on the planet except Fed Ex. Tugs, same thing if they are driven on public roads and not on airport property, carts too. I have yet to see a tug or baggage cart deliver my package in my neighborhood.



Most caterers and catering trucks never leave airport property unlike Fed Ex Trucks. I live by two major airports and when I worked, I flew almost every week. I have yet to see a catering truck off airport property. Cleaners too they work at the airport on airport property. They don't work off airport property. I have yet to see the catering truck with a cleaner deliver my package in my neighborhood. I've seen Fed Ex and UPS though. The Post Office is at airports How many Fed Ex trucks leave airport grounds and drive on public roads delivering packages. How many Fed Ex centers are off airport grounds and a tractor trailer delivers packages to thos centers off airport grounds? If truck mechanics are again based on airport property and fix trucks that are used on airport property IE the old yellow UPS Package Cars then yes they should be classified under RLA because they are involved in Airline ops sustaining the airline on airport property. If Fed Ex trucks never leave airport property then yep RLA.


Thats your point and we have ours. The functions posted above are integral to an airline on Airport property. Off airport property they function as a package delivery company and should be calssified as such. Just like every other delivery company that has airline ops. How come Fed Ex should have any exception than anybody else. UPS did do that in 1996 and Fred lobbied against it and UPS lost. The Teamsters did not support it then because it would affect peoples jobs and reduce peoples income. IE Fed Ex.

I was shown those in confidence. I will ask if I can post them for you to see. I will post tomorrow a couple of Fed Ex Smart Post tracking results. You can check under the Fed Ex Ground Site that smart post is under Fed Ex Ground. Thes packages went air though. The results will show that a package going from Dallas to Atalanta made it in under 8 hours. You cannot drive that by automobile in 8 hours. A train will not make it in 8 hours. I have a few examples of this to show if you want to see. I have to upload them to Flickr and they are on my other computer.



I appreciate good debate. You make some good points. Thank you.

Soyathink

Actually they are impressed that at under 40 I could retire even without my UPS Stock. Again very educated response from GolfandFly.

Why is this getting to you so bad GOLFandFly? Why are you and your other purple buddies so worried?

I spent the day at the beach and you sat around all day waiting for me to reply tonight.

I'm still waiting on the question I posed to you regarding "What you would do as an employer?" You just reply with name calling.

Soyathink

All you Fed Ex guys who are hellbent on insulting me or disagree, Are USPS (United States Postal Service) workers RLA or NLRA. The majority of the mail is abord aircraft and airlines. How much do you guys haul again? How many FDX Drop Boxes are at post offices? The postal service has tugs and hauls FDX cans at alot of airports. They have trucks just like Fed Ex. So what are law are they under? Give you a hint NLRA.

What is Fred Going to do if UPS decides on buying a Railroad if this law fails.

Have a look at how many shares Warren Buffet owns of UPS. Oh yeah he also owns Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corp. Think there might be a deal somewhere?

AerisArmis

I put the brain donor on "ignore". The flow of the thread is actually much more entertaining if you take out the redundant rantings from the poor soul.

golfandfly

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Busboy

What percentage of FedEx Express pieces are shipped by air?

What percentage of UPS packages are shipped by air?

What percentage of all FedEx Express drivers, are carrying pieces shipped by air?

What percentage of all UPS drivers, are carrying packages shipped by air?

Jetjok

Guesstimates only:

1. 90%; 2. 5%; 3. 100%; 4. I've no earthly idea, but I'd bet it's lower than 73.250%.

JJ

Soyathink

Finally somebody with half a brain!!!!!

You should change your question about "What percentage of UPS Packages are shipped by air?" to What percentage of UPS Air packages are shipped by ground?

What percentage of Fed Ex Air Packages are shipped by truck? That would be from point of pick up to the sorting facility, to the departure airport? Then picked up from the departure airport to the sorting facility then to the customer?

These are great questions. Jet Jok might be close on the last question because most of the deferred volume can go truck or rail. I'm going to see if I can get the actual numbers.