CPB sets up check point on jetway of SFO-JFK - Page 6

#51

NMuir , 02-25-2017 04:11 PM

Banned

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine

For those you who may not be familiar with NMuir, he is a troll with just enough knowledge of aviation to push our buttons.

He throws out inflammatory statements and refuses to support them with any relevant facts. When you supply any contradictory evidence, he responds with this: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority

He never is able to engage past basic talking points and lacks any real world experience to support his posts. He is the uninformed yet opinionated facebook "friend," the 17-year-old kid who just discovered Che Guevara, nothing more than a mere fart in the wind.

Uh no, you couldn't be more wrong. And Che was a murderer who should have been executed many years before he was killed.

Oh, and this:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

#52

Baron50 , 02-25-2017 04:32 PM

Gets Weekends Off

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcountry

I'd keep right on walking.

Without a warrant or probable cause, they won't touch you-or even stand in your way.

This whole stunt was just drama.

Try that at a DUI checkpoint.

You lost your fourth amendment right to privacy and unreasonable search when the SCOTUS (split decision) allowed an exception for public safety.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_checkpoint

#53

jcountry , 02-25-2017 04:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron50

I hate to split hairs-but there is not a "right to privacy." Never has been one.

It is a right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure. The whole "right to privacy" is a modern invention-and an attempt to make the constitution to appear to contain something it doesn't.

#54

AC560 , 02-25-2017 05:32 PM

Banned

Quote:

Originally Posted by NMuir

And the SCOTUS was wrong because their ruling is clearly contrary to the plain text of the Constitution.

The Constitution provides only one entity to interpret the Constitution and that is the SCOTUS. While you may feel your opinion is valid, unless you happen to be one of the 9 justices it isn't.

#55

galaxy flyer , 02-25-2017 05:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NMuir

Laws contrary to the Constitution are actually no law at all.

You can't sat that, only the Supreme Court can for federal law.

GF

#56

Al Czervik , 02-25-2017 05:53 PM

You scratched my anchor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron50

At a dui checkpoint the police have the right to stop your vehicle and ask questions. You are not required to answer. If you're not suspected of a crime they cannot detain you nor search your vehicle. There are idiots on YouTube that know this and push it.

#57

John Carr , 02-25-2017 06:16 PM

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I don't always seek legal counsel/constitutional scholars. But when I do, I go to Facebook or APC.

#58

Hossharris , 02-25-2017 06:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jcountry

Requires "reasonable suspicion" hence probable cause.

Reasonable suspicion and probable cause are two very different standards in legal terms. They are not interchangeable.

(Stayed at a holiday inn ...)

#59

tomgoodman , 02-25-2017 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by say again

Bingo! A bad troll at that.

But if a troll is bad enough, like a clown with a severe limp, he can be simultaneously too sad and too hilarious to ban.

#60

Xdashdriver , 02-25-2017 08:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NMuir

And the SCOTUS was wrong because their ruling is clearly contrary to the plain text of the Constitution.

The SCOTUS gets to interpret the Constitution. Since the 4th amendment does not define the word "unreasonable", they have come up with various interpretations to try to define what is reasonable vs unreasonable. Since the US operates on the English-style common law system of precedent-setting case law and since there is no higher legal authority in the US that can overturn their rulings, then their interpretations carry the same weight as the text does, whether you or I like it or not.