Frontier Negotiations Discussion - Page 285 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

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Gary et al , 11-03-2018 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by knm1229

Does anyone have a copy of the pay scales from our original ask? I wanted to compare them to the new ask. Thanks

Captain
0-1 184.00 1-2 196.00 2-3 209.00 3-4 216.00 4-5 221.00 5-6 226.00 6-7 231.00 7-8 236.00 8-9 238.00 9-10 241.00 10-11 243.00 11-12 245.00
First Officer
70.00 105.00 130.00 139.00 146.00 151.00 156.00 159.00 161.00 163.00 165.00 167.00

#2842

CrewRest , 11-03-2018 01:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by knm1229

Does anyone have a copy of the pay scales from our original ask? I wanted to compare them to the new ask. Thanks

Proposed Rates for A-320 Series – Effective April 1, 2017
Captain First Officer
0-1 184.00 70.00
1-2 196.00 105.00
2-3 209.00 130.00
3-4 216.00 139.00
4-5 221.00 146.00
5-6 226.00 151.00
6-7 231.00 156.00
7-8 236.00 159.00
8-9 238.00 161.00
9-10 241.00 163.00
10-11 243.00 165.00
11-12 245.00 167.00

#2843

Gary et al , 11-03-2018 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Missed Appch

I agree with this as well. I made it very clear that PBS is a big issue. The fact that the company wants it should be a big red flag.

I also told them that a contract subpar to JetBlue would not fly. So far, this AIP is subpar to JetBlue and they caved on PBS.

Previous closed sections were no longer considered closed or TA'd thus we have no idea what this AIP will look like..yet

#2844

Gary et al , 11-03-2018 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CrewRest

You're so nice and reformatted it, I was too lazy

#2845

Missed Appch , 11-03-2018 01:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary et al

Previous closed sections were no longer considered closed or TA'd thus we have no idea what this AIP will look like..yet

Yes, we do.

#2846

DENpilot , 11-03-2018 01:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Missed Appch

So far, this AIP is subpar to JetBlue and they caved on PBS.

There is not an AIP yet and you have nothing to make that judgment on.

#2847

Aero1900 , 11-03-2018 01:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by knm1229

Does anyone have a copy of the pay scales from our original ask? I wanted to compare them to the new ask. Thanks

I at least know the top, year 12 rates

Old ask was 245CA, 167FO
New ask. 266CA, 181FO

I believe the new ask would be top of the industry... as in...ain't gonna happen

#2848

CrewRest , 11-03-2018 01:39 PM

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Current asking pay rates

 Effective April 1, 2018

CA FO
1 232.24 39.11
2 236.13 126.16
3 238.88 144.15
4 241.76 151.10
5 244.47 156.74
6 247.09 161.26
7 249.85 166.07
8 253.12 169.94
9 256.27 173.05
10 259.60 176.43
11 262.48 178.65
12 266.10 181.27

#2849

Missed Appch , 11-03-2018 01:39 PM

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So $14/ hour less than JetBlue I believe. I’m not sure if that includes their $13.00/red eye flying.

#2850

chinookwinds , 11-03-2018 01:40 PM

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The original ask/pay rates are in the special negotiations update Email dated 9/2/16.
I spent a couple hours today finding those rates, the 8/25/18 new proposal rates and ran some numbers to determine what the LOA 67 pay should be. I ran these #’s based on a very conservative pay rate increase of 10% and 15% differentials prorated to the date that was due. Although I strongly feel LOA 67 should be settled separately from section 6 negotiations and signing bonus, I don’t think that is what we will see. Just wanted to get an idea of what the actual signing bonus would be worth minus what a ball park LOA 67 value should be when the next detailed communication comes out.
I am sure it will be pennies on the dollar. We shall see??