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Old 11-03-2018 | 05:51 PM
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How short are our memories?
This mgmnt group has PURPOSELY been f..ing with POKING THE BEAR, for How long?????
Blatantly disregarding the CBA at will, taking retaliatory actions consistently, and talk about “Bad faith bargaining” ....
So we FINALLY achieve an advantage and it’s “ALL GOOD”?

Well, for me KARMA IS A BITc#,
I demand industry LEADING in EVERY aspect....they can MORE than afford it...
Yea I’m angry.
I better just turn my back and play with the grandkids, get some joy back in life.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Brody
Jetblue monthly guarantee is 70 hours.
We all need to give the union a chance to present the information or else we compare apples to oranges.
75 for reserve and 70 for line holders just to be exact.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Beechnut58
75 for reserve and 70 for line holders just to be exact.
Thanks Beechnut58. Just out of curiosity, do you have any idea what your average credit or block is? For line holders.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ReserveCA
How short are our memories?
This mgmnt group has PURPOSELY been f..ing with POKING THE BEAR, for How long?????
Blatantly disregarding the CBA at will, taking retaliatory actions consistently, and talk about “Bad faith bargaining” ....
So we FINALLY achieve an advantage and it’s “ALL GOOD”?

Well, for me KARMA IS A BITc#,
I demand industry LEADING in EVERY aspect....they can MORE than afford it...
Yea I’m angry.
I better just turn my back and play with the grandkids, get some joy back in life.
100% agree. The company has way more to offer. They’ve been waiting for this day. Wearing us down to the point of which they need this done. 2% above spirit? NO! 2% above jet blue? If the other conditions are met. I can’t believe folks are willing to roll over for spirit rates after the hell we’ve been put through. Any of y’all get your vacation cancelled? How’d that make you feel? To many sheep, not enough wolves..
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Old 11-03-2018 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
Wrong.
I am going to guess you are a former ASA pilot. At ASA unstacking used your unstacking bidsheet. I was at Mesa. Unstacking you had no say at all what was placed on your schedule due to unstacking and it did this before it looked at your preferences. So in your case it worked differently. I did not know unstacking could be done with a separate unstacking bidsheet. So we need language to address this.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wt93205
I am going to guess you are a former ASA pilot. At ASA unstacking used your unstacking bidsheet. I was at Mesa. Unstacking you had no say at all what was placed on your schedule due to unstacking and it did this before it looked at your preferences. So in your case it worked differently. I did not know unstacking could be done with a separate unstacking bidsheet. So we need language to address this.
At Delta if pbs gets to the bottom of your bid and hasnt put enough flying on your line to satisfy the line construction window, it works backwards back up your preferences and drops the last one and sees if that allows a trip onto your line that satisfies the LCW, then drops the next higher preference, etc. etc.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
At Delta if pbs gets to the bottom of your bid and hasnt put enough flying on your line to satisfy the line construction window, it works backwards back up your preferences and drops the last one and sees if that allows a trip onto your line that satisfies the LCW, then drops the next higher preference, etc. etc.
That’s Denial Mode. As was previously mentioned, Unstacking puts stuff on your schedule prior to looking at your preferences. There’s a Delta PBS gouge pdf out there that explains it all.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 07:40 PM
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Just waiting for the details of whatever is presented but...

Does anyone think that Indigos first offer is actually its “last, best” offer?

Are we potentially leaving money/QoL on the table by not voting the first one down to see if there can be something better?

Is there a hazard/downside of voting no on the first TA?

I’m actually just curious if there’s something I’m missing...
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Old 11-03-2018 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
Just waiting for the details of whatever is presented but...

Does anyone think that Indigos first offer is actually its “last, best” offer?

Are we potentially leaving money/QoL on the table by not voting the first one down to see if there can be something better?

Is there a hazard/downside of voting no on the first TA?

I’m actually just curious if there’s something I’m missing...
Company needs this. We don’t. We say no, they come back with something better. 2% better than spirit? Hell no
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Old 11-03-2018 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Need a real job
Company needs this. We don’t. We say no, they come back with something better. 2% better than spirit? Hell no
Again is this a strong leak? Where are we getting 2% better than spirit or JetBlue -14?
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