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Quote: objectively the C series is an awesome product.
Guess you've never looked at a government contract.
Once again, if it is so awesome why did they sell them at such a low cost?

Yes, I have looked at a government contract. While they are a guaranteed income stream that finance guys love, they don't make as much off of them as you think. Money and stock value come from new orders.
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Quote: Guess you don't know how many 737s Boeing builds a month. It is more than all those aircraft combined, multiplied by 3.
I guess you don't know that a Boeing CFO went to jail and the CEO resigned over Boeing's illegal manipulations over the USAF tanker contract, or that they lost the competition yet through their near infinite political and legal influence, stole the contract back.

Seems like a lot of effort if the military -- and just one contract at that -- is just a drop in the bucket.
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Quote: Once again, if it is so awesome why did they sell them at such a low cost?
What are you inferring here?
Airlines didn't line up to pay full price why? Is it because Bombardier doesn't have the sales team, supply, support, reputation of BA/AB? Maybe because it's a new gen airplane/engine with high risk of teething issues, unstable delivery schedule? Maybe BBD was thinking, I don't know, with a solid order from a respected airline that they could win credibility, hence big discount for marquee customer?

Naw..you're right, it was sold to Delta so cheap becuase it was an awful product. PNWFlyer figured it out guys. Good job gum shoes.
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Quote: I guess you don't know that a Boeing CFO went to jail and the CEO resigned over Boeing's illegal manipulations over the USAF tanker contract, or that they lost the competition yet through their near infinite political and legal influence, stole the contract back.

Seems like a lot of effort if the military -- and just one contract at that -- is just a drop in the bucket.
And we still don't have those tankers. Great job Boeing

(Grew up in PNW, lifelong Boeing fan, hate watching what the company has turned into, zero innovation worked out great for MD).
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Quote: Once again, if it is so awesome why did they sell them at such a low cost?

Yes, I have looked at a government contract. While they are a guaranteed income stream that finance guys love, they don't make as much off of them as you think. Money and stock value come from new orders.
Before the Airbus acquisition, the Cseries lacked a support system due to the shortcomings of Bombardier. It was never about the airplane. Delta agreed to take on that risk, for a discount, and won in the end.
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Quote: Before the Airbus acquisition, the Cseries lacked a support system due to the shortcomings of Bombardier. It was never about the airplane. Delta agreed to take on that risk, for a discount, and won in the end.
Maybe. I guess we'll see when we get to "the end"?
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http://http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/...der/index.html

Edit: Wrong thread but I figure it can go here as well. Think this will be in the weekly update?
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Quote: Maybe. I guess we'll see when we get to "the end"?
If Airbus was willing to open up a second line to support the Delta order, it means Airbus had a major financial incentive to do so. The 100 A321 order is just the start in my opinion. Airbus is certainly also building something to respond to the 797, and likely Delta will be the launch customer for that aircraft, and it will replace the 767.
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Quote: If Airbus was willing to open up a second line to support the Delta order, it means Airbus had a major financial incentive to do so. The 100 A321 order is just the start in my opinion. Airbus is certainly also building something to respond to the 797, and likely Delta will be the launch customer for that aircraft, and it will replace the 767.
If Airbus launched the program tomorrow they could not bring the aircraft to market in time to replace the Delta 767's.
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Quote: If Airbus launched the program tomorrow they could not bring the aircraft to market in time to replace the Delta 767's.
What about a shortened 330 with lighter wing and guts?
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