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Falcon20 , 08-09-2017 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kjazz130

I want to make sure I understand this correctly so tell me if I'm wrong. If I am awarded a 4 day green slip on the last day of a block of x days. I receive 5:15 above the reserve guarantee, one payback day and rest at the end? Do you always get rest? Can you GS during rest if you are legal? (I.e. The GS rotation you completed had a 30 hr layover or you haven't reach 168)

TIA

You get paid whatever the block is for the day flown on the X day and a single payback day. Yes you can GS on the payback day or partial rest PR day. That is "Rolling Thunder" and you get a full payback day for the partial day.

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Hank Kingsley , 08-09-2017 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon20

Do you have to answer your phone to get this deal? Where's a dead horse when you need one.

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Falcon20 , 08-10-2017 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley

Do you have to answer your phone to get this deal? Where's a dead horse when you need one.

Well I have it forwarded to my 6 year old. They get the trip details and if the trip sucks they say I'm the pool boy !!!

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BobZ , 08-10-2017 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FL370esq

In your stint as a process server, I am willing to bet you never "served" a search warrant.

I have no doubt the individual was served the subpoena at his personal residence but, unlike your previous post, it was not by Federal LEOs in the dark of night. Does sound dramatic though and makes for good print but, in fact, anyone 18 years or older who isn't a party to the action can serve a federal subpoena. You probably even served a few in your stint as a process server.

Unlike a search warrant whereby relevant documents can be "confiscated," a subpoena requires you to produce documents to the court. Granted there is the threat of civil contempt but those "officials" could not "confiscate" those documents.

The hammer held by management is actually the RLA. The 2001 injunction was the company running to court to enforce the RLA. Even if there were another "No OT" campaign, the company would have to seek a new injunction by proferring new evidence against new pilot-defendants.

out of curiosity, and in your legal opinion, what/if any response do you think would occur if every pilot system wide immediately pulled their 'no qualifier' blanket gs requests?

and resubmitted a gs request with highly restrictive qualifiers?

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BobZ , 08-10-2017 07:47 AM

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I'm shaking the cobwebs out....but having some trouble recalling from my process server days.....

can you help refresh my memory on the statutory restrictions on when, how, and where subpoenas from a federal court may be served?

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FL370esq , 08-10-2017 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BobZ

Well....if the company started holding pilots to the letter of the contract, nothing. Which is why I see neither happening.

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gloopy , 08-10-2017 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FL370esq

Again....if you could actually read, you would see I was agreeing with you. Well...except the 10 hour off-the-reservation rant. Again, try to read FAR 117.25 and you will see your diatribe was irrelevant because it ain't no factor.

Thanks for the entertainment though. 😁

I'm not talking about FAR117 with the 10 hours. I'm talking about all humans need rest, regardless of the legality of it. So under no physiological circumstance could you even theoretically possibly be 24/7 rested for a pop up max duty day. Committing the immortal sin of answering the phone doesn't change that.

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gloopy , 08-10-2017 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot

Again... Where is this "big excuses" list in the contract? Find me the reference instead of just telling us we're wrong.

The same list that applies to any other phone call trip. You really think you're fired (or even in a tiny bit of trouble) if you answer the phone and in good faith honestly are too far away to do the trip or had child care pop up or any of the other things? That's just asinine, and you're the only person (ok, maybe one of two) among either the pilot group or company who would even attempt to make that lame case.

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notEnuf , 08-10-2017 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley

Do you have to answer your phone to get this deal? Where's a dead horse when you need one.

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BobZ , 08-10-2017 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gloopy

when things were pretty crazy I blocked in from a gs. got home showered and in bed....within 3 hours scheduling was waking me out of a dead sleep to ask me how soon I could sign in for a trip.

don't think its they aren't aware...its just when you are out of warm bodies to fill the seats.....everything else kinda becomes second priority.

schedulers have a tough job. they operate in a system that at times is a much a hindrance as help. My personal approach has always been to not make their job any more difficult than it already is, and if I am on the gs list...to make every effort to in fact be available.