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Quote: Do you even work here? The checkride failures setting you back?
Nope. They very well may.

I am just joking around as I couldn’t care less if you or anyone else points out my gramatical errors. It really doesn’t bother me at all. I wasn’t ever trying to insult you. If that’s how you took it, I apologize. Things get lost in translation over an Internet forum.
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Quote: Play nice kids were all on the same team here.


Making it count doesn’t even work here.

If he does then I stand corrected but it’s doubtful that he flies here.
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Quote: Nope. They very well may.



I am just joking around as I couldn’t care less if you or anyone else points out my gramatical errors. It really doesn’t bother me at all. I wasn’t ever trying to insult you. If that’s how you took it, I apologize. Things get lost in translation over an Internet forum.


Uh, not insulted homie. Just finding it kind of funny that you put us on full blast and you don’t even work here. Just pick another regional. We’re going to be ok over here with or without you. You seem to be well informed. I don’t doubt you’ll make the right decision but you go where they offer you a job.
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I guess that sarcasm was lost on this guy ha
Quote: pretty sure he was being facetious.
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Quote: pretty sure he was being facetious.
Please forgive ClearedHot....he's afflicted with a rare condition known as FAC-itis in which he has occasional and short lived bouts of inability to recognize humor (especially internet humor) combined with short outbursts akin to "get off my lawn you damn kids".....the keyboard version of which you have witnessed in this thread. I assure you, ClearedHot is a most amicable, friendly, and congenial fellow and were this thread a discussion taking place in a bar he would be buying a round at some point, because that's his style. He's the man. Except, Chill out, GARY!
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Quote: I don't have any numbers, but based on what I've seen, the number of cadets has skyrocketed, so PSA will have a steady number of pilots coming per class that are locked in a year out. I assume the number of RTP candidates will also remain fairly steady...and then you'll always have those pilots who want those bases (DAY was very popular in my class for some reason, mainly of those who live out of state). I think if PSA continues to cater to those three groups, they won't have any need to raise pay, etc, and will not have problems filling the classes. They really can't compete with the Endeavor/Republic contract, and I don't think they try to anymore. Instead, they can cater to college students, give them $5,000 untaxed while they're instructing to lock them in for a year, and they'll continue to have FOs.

What is RTP?
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Quote: What is RTP?
Rotor Transition Program
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Quote: Generally speaking RTP guys generally won't be CA material at 1000 hrs. way back when...2500 hrs was a pretty good target for UPG. I challenge these guys to not to waste their 1000 hrs. coasting in R seat while the CA wonders what surprise they have to clean up next. Its asking too much of these individuals with little or no XC, IMC, ATC experience, marginal flying skills at best... to think they'll have the tools to make good informed decisions in a 121 environment is nieve. I start my day looking at headlines hoping PSA isn't in one.
You my friend, don't have a clue what you're talking about. A few observations......
1. RTP pilots are an asset to ALL the regionals and are here to stay.
2. You have never walked in our shoes and dealt with the sacrifices over the past 15 years with a 2 front war.
3. Marginal flying skills. You're kidding me right? If you think that being a CFI flying around in the pattern for 1500 hours qualifies an individual more than a RTP pilot, then you are delusional.
4. Professionalism..... Look it up in the dictionary.
5. If you want to have this conversation over a cup of coffee, send me a PM and we can link up in CLT anytime. I'd be more than happy to hear your thoughts on how to improve the program instead of just bashing said individuals who want to make a difference in this industry.

Cheers!
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Quote: You my friend, don't have a clue what you're talking about. A few observations......
1. RTP pilots are an asset to ALL the regionals and are here to stay.
2. You have never walked in our shoes and dealt with the sacrifices over the past 15 years with a 2 front war.
3. Marginal flying skills. You're kidding me right? If you think that being a CFI flying around in the pattern for 1500 hours qualifies an individual more than a RTP pilot, then you are delusional.
4. Professionalism..... Look it up in the dictionary.
5. If you want to have this conversation over a cup of coffee, send me a PM and we can link up in CLT anytime. I'd be more than happy to hear your thoughts on how to improve the program instead of just bashing said individuals who want to make a difference in this industry.

Cheers!
A F-ing-men. Rickshaw you come across as uninformed and holier than thou. Go fly the military side and see how you compare and maybe you’d understand the value RTPers bring. FYI, military guys have been coming to the industry before regionals started the current transition programs and have been doing just fine. OldBills response is spot on
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Quote: You my friend, don't have a clue what you're talking about. A few observations......
1. RTP pilots are an asset to ALL the regionals and are here to stay.
2. You have never walked in our shoes and dealt with the sacrifices over the past 15 years with a 2 front war.
3. Marginal flying skills. You're kidding me right? If you think that being a CFI flying around in the pattern for 1500 hours qualifies an individual more than a RTP pilot, then you are delusional.
4. Professionalism..... Look it up in the dictionary.
5. If you want to have this conversation over a cup of coffee, send me a PM and we can link up in CLT anytime. I'd be more than happy to hear your thoughts on how to improve the program instead of just bashing said individuals who want to make a difference in this industry.

Cheers!
Quote: A F-ing-men. Rickshaw you come across as uninformed and holier than thou. Go fly the military side and see how you compare and maybe you’d understand the value RTPers bring. FYI, military guys have been coming to the industry before regionals started the current transition programs and have been doing just fine. OldBills response is spot on
Let's slow our roll here. The guy made a post about his general opinions and observations. Yeah, I generally disagreed with it, but let's be honest. Not every single RTP guy or gal who sits in the right seat is everything described above. I do believe that the strong majority of RTP's are assets to the regionals and beyond, but anyone who has spent more than a couple of weeks in a military aviation unit knows that there are strong aviators and weak aviators. There are those of us who were chosen for advanced flight quals and those of us who weren't, etc etc. Just like the "1500 hour CFI flying around in the pattern"....there are great 121 pilots out there who did that, and not so great ones as well. I served, I had my quals and my time....at this point that entitles me to...specifically in this case, that entitles me to exercise the privileges on my FAA pilot certificate. No more, no less. My point is that as an RTP who has been handed an opportunity that many of us couldn't have dreamed of a year or more ago I am thankful, and recognize that regardless of any previous experience, regardless of service, combat or any of that stuff, I'm still a pretty junior 121 jet pilot. Humility is key. If a few pilots think or speak poorly of RTP's whether legitimate gripes or not, look for criticisms that may apply to ourselves individually or collectively and look to improve. If someone has a poor opinion of RTP's it should be our words, actions, and performance out on the line that change minds, not rants on this forum. That being said....end rant....fly safe.
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