ATI hiring through 2019

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Quote: Been applying and updating to SWA, United, AA, FedEx, UPS etc.
5600 TT
5500 PIC
1300 PIC Jet
Crickets from ALL of them.
The only "airline" with interview invite is Sun Country, but can't afford to work there...
So, I guess the "low" timers that you speak of that airlines are hiring, have something else besides just an application up their sleeve...?
Tons of LOR's, buddies on the HR team...idk..
You’ll need more than those qualifications to be hired by the Big 4 or FedEx & UPS. Think LCA, Management, Safety Jobs, etc.
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Quote: ATI does not have a pilot shortage and apparently neither do any of the other acmi carriers. I've been hearing about a pilot shortage for 30 years, let me know when it happens. As far as attracting pilots from other flying organizations, there seems to be an abundance of mesa and great lakes pilots getting hired at ATI and voting yes on a substandard contract because they are too ignorant to know any better.
If ATI wants to grow a LOT, then they will need to get pilots to leave other carriers, like Kalitta, Atlas, JetBlue, Delta, FedEx, Chinese airlines. If they want to grow a little bit, they MAY be able to do it with their current contract.

I think that THE biggest reasons that ATI got their new contract, was that they were having difficulty recruiting/retaining pilots. And, the Pilot Shortage is getting worse...the Pilot Shortage situation was better back when ATI got their current contract.
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Quote: You’ll need more than those qualifications to be hired by the Big 4 or FedEx & UPS. Think LCA, Management, Safety Jobs, etc.
Yup.
Understood.
Back to stock trading it is..
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Quote: This is precisely the thinking, (correction lack of thinking) that ATI's contract passed with a majority 70% +.



Just bear in mind when you interview at another major and the reps from labor ask you these types of scenarios and where you stand, give them your answer and don't let the door hit you in the arse on your way out lads.
I interviewed at FedEx and my time at ATI was viewed as positive. Nice try with your fear propaganda but it didn’t come up at all. (BTW I was hired)
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How many hours are guys/gals crediting per month these days at ATI?
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Quote: How many hours are guys/gals crediting per month these days at ATI?
I normally fly 55-70 per bid 60’ish most months
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Quote: I interviewed at FedEx and my time at ATI was viewed as positive. Nice try with your fear propaganda but it didn’t come up at all. (BTW I was hired)

Wow, I give up. Totally way over your head...good riddens
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Quote: Wow, I give up. Totally way over your head...good riddens
I know of quite a few ATI pilots trying to escape that can't get a call or have been turned down. Just ask around. There are many airlines that just about anyone can go to that pay better than any ACMI and have just as quick upgrades...and better opportunity to build time....... ...waiting for someone to bow up and deny any connection. .......>>>
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Quote: I know of quite a few ATI pilots trying to escape that can't get a call or have been turned down. Just ask around. There are many airlines that just about anyone can go to that pay better than any ACMI and have just as quick upgrades...and better opportunity to build time....... ...waiting for someone to bow up and deny any connection. .......>>>
Well? Please list the airlines people can go to that pay better than an ACMI that aren't near impossible to get hired at? Pilot shortage or not, if you want to work somewhere that pays well North of 100k, it's going to be competitive and selective.
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Quote: Well? Please list the airlines people can go to that pay better than an ACMI that aren't near impossible to get hired at? Pilot shortage or not, if you want to work somewhere that pays well North of 100k, it's going to be competitive and selective.

Nobody at ati, abx or atlas is making north of 100k in the first 3 years.

Frontier cpt upgrade 2-3 years
Spirit cpt upgrade 3-4 years
Allegiant cpt upgrade 3 years.....all better pay than ati because they have meaningful trip/ duty/ min day credit. And all have a better retirement.

And Envoy direct entry cpt 110k
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