Exactly. It’s a bit disingenuous to expect someone *learning* an airplane to do it under terrible environmental circumstances just because you expect someone who has already learned the airplane to be functional at odd hours.

The majors have early and late sims too.

Looking at the contract at Republic, there is to be no training before 06:00, no sim before 08:00, no training can start after 22:00 and no checking event can go past 24:00.

Sure I get it that we may have to fly the line before or after the hours of training at SKW but having a checking event until 02:00, especially if you are a east coaster is rough. SKW has what's called "virtual owner ship of the sims and the only time they cannot be used is for 4 hours per day for MX. SKW pays for the other 20 hours and they want every second used for financial reasons. Quantity over quality. Simple as that.

I can say that more often than not the level of training after the mid break at midnight is usually very diminished, regardless of the student efforts. Instructors get tired too. And 04:00 is just simply wrong!

No wonder Republic keeps calling OO asking for some sim time.. and another reason they are backed up. My friend there say they are pushing people into there grace months....

You’re also most likely seasoned veteran of the airline industry or the military at that point. You’re not learning your first turbine airplane after flight instructing. Knowing what to expect is half the battle.

No, for the FAA it is <70%

I stand corrected then.

Which again, is basically a D+. I'm glad were holding as little higher standard than that.

I'll be that guy. The FAA signed and influenced the training program. So 80% is passing for the FAA. I doubt a 70 is passing at other air carriers.

The airline itself sets the parameter that indicates a passing mark and it is then FAA approved.

If that's 10% or higher and it's FAA approved so be it. SKW chose that value to be 80%, you guys are making this more difficult than it has to be.