Taking off with frosty wings

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Quote: Leaving DTW this morning I was a passenger on a GoJet flight. Musta been the first flight for the jet because the wings were frosty. After pushback, I was dumbstruck when the crew skipped the deice pad and went ahead and blasted off. Is there guidance in your FOM that allows a departure with a certain amount of frost on the top of the wings?
Question is, why did you allow it to happen without saying something being a fellow pilot and knowing that it’s proabbly not safe.
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If you really think it was gross negligence, report it to the FAA.
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I recall one famous crash where an air Florida jet crashed into the Potomac. Most on board died. If you have concerns of the safety of flight you should raise them the life you save may be your own.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Florida_Flight_90
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I love Frostys! So fluffy and delicious.

Plane Coffee
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Quote: Leaving DTW this morning I was a passenger on a GoJet flight. Musta been the first flight for the jet because the wings were frosty. After pushback, I was dumbstruck when the crew skipped the deice pad and went ahead and blasted off. Is there guidance in your FOM that allows a departure with a certain amount of frost on the top of the wings?

Can you pls PM me the date and the flight number if you remember it..??
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Quote: Can you pls PM me the date and the flight number if you remember it..??
Here we go again, a passenger complains, someone makes any accusation (true or false does not matter) and someone is fired. How about not firing someone for once so that Gojet can have an experience level of Captains that exceeds 2 years?

If Gojet wants to become a decent airline, they need to stop firing everyone who takes FMLA, Military Leave, or who makes a mistake.

Message to Frosty, deice next time or you will get in trouble! Good luck at the new airline you will be at next week.
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Quote: Can you pls PM me the date and the flight number if you remember it..??
do NOT do this
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Quote: How could anyone inside the aircraft see the underside of the wing? Any frost/contamination reported by anyone inside couldn’t be on the underside of the wing.
Walk around perhaps!
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Quote: It actually is common on the E145 with large full loads. Tank baffle issue
It may be common but it means something is wrong in the fuel tank vent system. The wing fuel gets heated and expands and forces its way past the fuel cap if the vent system has a clog. If you have a brand new cap that seals well the pressure has to go somewhere and might rupture a fuel line component. If a mechanic says it’s common don’t worry about it ask him to put it on MEL. He can’t and won’t.
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Quote: Walk around perhaps!


Was referring to the original post about someone complaining—PASSENGER couldn’t see underside of wing. Also couldn’t do walkaround.

Obviously if they’re boarding via ramp not jetway it’s possible.
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