Comparing Alaska to Continental/United is apples to oranges. UA has global presence out of EWR, whereas Alaska has what? Oh yeah.... codesharing partners. Let’s face it, United has nearly more daily flights out of EWR alone than we have out of all our west coast hubs combined!

FWIW, SWA management has been quoted numerous times saying that, “We need to fly to Hawaii because we’re tired of taking customers to California so they can connect to Hawaii on Alaska”.

Is it going to put you guys out of business? Hell no, but realistically I do think it’ll put a dent in Alaska and Hawaiian’s business.

What do they do to the water there in Angle Lake?

Yep, seems like we have some very delusional pilots working at Alaska. It explains exactly why Alaska has the worst contract in the business.
Clueless. Absolutely clueless.

That "thing" they call contract is a total embarrassment even when compared to the regional contract. And it's pathetic listening to their excuses about Kasher on and on. Its been what, almost a decade or longer since Kasher happened? But hey... you can get a group of buddies, 20 lets lets say that and that way you can improve your schedule by trading trips among each other. WTF????!!! Who does that?!

Everytime I read the "contract" or emails explaining bidding and step trading I see the trend.... "if you owe company duty periods".... Seriously!!?? If anything, they owe me, us money for the pay back they agreed to, dating back to Nov 1 2017. JCTE transition came and went and still crickets.

All airlines have them. It just varies as to what extent.

Im here for the witty banter. Thanks for obliging.

Guess we will see. I for one would like to know how they plan to compete with Hawaiian’s 717s inter island. Since SWA does not have a crew or pilot base there, Hawaiian is going to kill them with frequency.

What make SWA successful in the states doesn't really work in the islands. Since you can only use your ETOPS crews and planes you can't bring the entire weight of the system into the market.

Also, with the lack of red-eyes, anyone east of the rockies is spending an extra night somewhere along the way.

I'm not comparing AS to UAL. I'm comparing the hysteria pilots are having over SWA entering the HI market to other episodes of hype when SWA entered other markets. Who care what SWA does. It's not our job to worry about that stuff. Let's see how it plays out over the next few years and make an assessment then. The last time I checked the paychecks were still cashing.

From a PAYING passenger's perspective here's why Delta is successfully competing with Alaska:

1. Unless you're going to the West Coast, Delta has more options to anywhere else in the U.S.
2. The cabin service is similar.
3. The cabin amenities are similar.
4. The Delta Sky Clubs are superior.
5. Alaska has ZERO organic international options outside of Mexico and Canada.
6. Widebody aircraft are more passenger friendly than any single aisle aircraft.

For the high value customer (Gold, Platinum, Diamond) Delta is a superior product. Sometimes pilots don't quite get that.