I’m not going into that discussion... Start asking around how long airlines negotiations went on before they got a contract...

The number 2 FO in Slc doesn’t want to transition. Looking at the top 10. They could have by now. And every time you fly with them, they have a different story why they haven’t transitioned or tried to upgrade... or have and didn’t make it.. not saying some guys didn’t get screwed on timing of transitioning to the 175. But they all had a chance. And most could have upgraded a decade ago...

Yep, all they had to do was transfer out of SLC like everyone else.
Other then the inability to upgrade in base while others junior to you transfer in I can think of one other glaring seniority violation that happened and when called out the reason turned into "family hardship" or something along those lines. I won't go into detail because the company monitor will immediately post and call me a liar, didn't happen etc.

I'm familiar with that one too! Seniority rules are really a loose guideline, not something you can count on. Kind of like the entire PPM.

He showed me the letter of why he was bypassed. He would have to take another base until a SLC position opened, and he can't take that risk. Yes he could have upgraded and had an awful schedule, he didn't want that either.

Why can't a person bid an airplane in their base? Because it's a difficulty the company doesn't want to deal with.

Plain and simple, it's wrong, and it's a violation of seniority that would never happen at virtually all other airlines. If this ever happened at D or U it would be world war III!

I was wondering if they could have transitioned to the junior base filling the vacancies then transferred back in seniority order. Thanks. The junior FO to be awarded SLC didn’t even spend a full month in ORD before being given SLC. Talk about a big ballyhoo over what has been “how we have always done it”.
a trained pilot always gets the slot before a pilot needing trained.
They knew SLC was going to keep growing (I think) so I still don’t like it but we all know how the game gets played. Meaning you might get that outwest upgrade but you will probably have to put in for “Minnie Tour”

I think we all know how "the game" is played. But no other airline plays it that way and the commuting and financial burden is on the pilot. There is only one winner in "the game".

More on to the point, not one damn bit of this is written down, as someone said "it's just the way we've always done it".

No voice, no choice!

Some airlines displace like crazy. I was kicked out of 3 domiciles and 4 seats at eagle.... pick your poison...

"We do it better than Eagle did it/Envoy does it" isn't setting the bar very high these days. Just sayin'...

Rickair the difference is after they locked them into PDX and SEA CRJ while it was wound down, they were kicked out of base while people jr to them were on the 175 in that base. right now they are just not letting many people transfer. most airlines have a provision when a new base opens or a new equipment opens in a base you can break a seat lock. I know people who are going on a year without being allowed to transfer while new hires are getting the base and seat the sr people want. while SKW has its good things, how senority is treated here is not one of them. IMO