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Hey, I’m considering American and I was just wondering how long will it take to become a first officer on either the 787 or the 777?
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Rough guess, at least 5-6 years if hired today.


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Quote: Hey, I’m considering American and I was just wondering how long will it take to become a first officer on either the 787 or the 777?
Been here 5.5 years and can’t hold it. I think it will drop to 3 to 4 years eventually though.
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Quote: Been here 5.5 years and can’t hold it. I think it will drop to 3 to 4 years eventually though.
5.5 years holds 777 FO in JFK (sen. 11990)
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Quote: 5.5 years holds 777 FO in JFK (sen. 11990)
Yeah, you got me, I’ve actually only been here 5 years and 5 months...so maybe 5.4 years, can’t hold it, close though.
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Junior pilot is 15100 on the current list I think.

So someone hired today could be a group 4 FO in 3.5 years if we hire/retire 900/yr for the next few years (all else staying the same).

We're also trading 767s for 787s in the next few years.

We could also see our stock price cut in half yet again in even less time, so who knows.
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Are you in "training" in Afghanistan?


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Quote: Hey, I’m considering American and I was just wondering how long will it take to become a first officer on either the 787 or the 777?
Quote: Hey, I’m considering United and I was just wondering how long will it take to become a first officer on either the 787 or the 777?
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Quote: Are you in "training" in Afghanistan?


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Nope, United and American are just my top two choices.
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Yeah, it’s a strange question, I just figured he’s a kid.
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5.5 years, I am now 787 DFW. Just held it on bid from January, so just over 5 to hold. As a note, it all depends on what people put in their “preference bid”.

There are many people senior to me that can hold it, but didn’t have it in their preference bid and thus will not be awarded it unless they change their bid. That’s why even people junior to me, less than 5 years when awarded, hold 777 and 787. It’s a risk/reward call to bid it for junior pilots. I won’t be off reserve for years, but was still getting reserve on the BUS because of my base seniority from time to time based on days off in my PBS bid. Figured if I am going to get reserve, might as well have better pay, and based on open time, fly much less.

Now that being said, with a displacement bid, and one currently being processed, I can see many of the junior pilots, especially junior seniority, being displaced on this bid. However, they all, as very junior pilots in the pilot group, will get displacement rights and get back to the plane(s) before senior pilots to them with vacancies.
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