This does not sound correct

Q 13-84) I am awarded a 70 credit hour bid line. If I use the trip board and successfully transfer off a 10 hour trip from my line, I understand that the value of the transferred trip will be deducted from guarantee (75 hours) creating a new bid line guarantee of 65 hours. What if I then successfully transfer off another trip from my line, will those credit hours continue to be deducted from my new guarantee?

Yes, as long as your transfer of a trip(s) do not take you below 50% of your original bid line credit (35 credit hours in this example). If you go 50% below original bid line credit at any point in the pay period, then all the transferred trip credit value will be deducted from your original bid line credit of 70 hours.

ah ok. so the issue lies when you try to get your credit back to the 75 hr guarantee

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Correct. People confuse guarantee with line credit, they are not interchangeable.

The same case: 70 hour line credit, drop 10 hr trip on the trip board, it comes off BOTH guarantee and line credit, you will be paid higher of the two. So guarantee drops to 65, line credit to 60. IF, you want to get back to contractual min guarantee (75), that is where the buffer comes into play. Any time picked up adds to your line credit, NOT to guarantee, so you would need to pick up one or more trips that credit 15 hours.

To further help clarify:

Buffer = difference between original line credit and 75 hrs (line guarantee) IF line credit < guarantee.

- Considered free money.

- You don’t lose the buffer but you might not get it paid out. This is the drop, then pickup, scenario described above.
Q: does picking up OT / JA get treated the same as picking up off the trip board in this scenario?

- Dropping trips below 50% original line credit value nullifies guarantee (thus buffer), leaving only line credit to be factored in pay.
Q: what happens to guarantee / buffer if one picks up to get back above 50%?

Q: If I do a trip trade with OT that results in less credit (assuming we are under a buffer scenario) is this treated the same as dropping credit via the trip board?

If anyone knows the answers to these questions offhand, TIA. If not, I’ll dig into it and post what I find.

My bad guess I need to read up more

JA is paid over 75. OT on the other hand you are working for free until you credit 75. Example original line credit of 70 fly as scheduled get paid 75. Pickup 10 hrs, get paid 80 not 85.

For the last question you can’t trade for less credit only equal to or more.

As far as coming to UPS with the intentions of dropping trips I would say you are better off elsewhere. UPS has a ton to offer schedule flexibility is not at the top.

Exceptional advice.

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