C20 Update

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Quote: It appears the guy who posted the resolution to eliminate retirement age in C20 is already going to have 41 years of service at current retirement date. How much more do you need? Get a hobby.

Anyone going to the meeting who can swing a proxy?
He will have spent 27 of those 41 years as a WB Capt...
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Quote: He will have spent 27 of those 41 years as a WB Capt...
And no doubt griping the past year or so how "unfair" Age 65 is.
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Excellent update. This should be pinned to the top of the forum to refer to when things go off in the weeds.
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Conventional wisdom is that Delta benefits by having one or more workgroups non-unionized. It seems to me that the pilot group pays the price. Worst in vacation, worst in deadhead, worst in crew meals, no holiday pay, no alcohol on a TPAC DH, etc... because they'd have to give it to someone who doesn't have a negotiating body?

Personally, I think flight attendants who don't want to be unionized in today's managerial climate are nuts and short-sighted... but that's been the opinion I'll offer only when asked. Now I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't bolster the organizing campaign.
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The union should just go into negotiations and say either agree to all this or we will get the FAs unionized by the end of the summer.
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Quote: And no doubt griping the past year or so how "unfair" Age 65 is.
And probably broke cause he never learned how to manage his money.
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Quote: And probably broke cause he never learned how to manage his money.
That second wife in Asia certainly isn’t going to get a job.
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Quote: That second wife in Asia certainly isn’t going to get a job.
Well, not when she's spent all his money on Gucci and Prada coronavirus masks.
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I'm glad that at least some of you are starting to see how it does benefit your group if FAs do unionize.

Let us do our own negotiating so that your group can just worry about negotiating for your group only. As others have said, there are many areas the company won't move on because they're too visible and would anger the FA group into unionizing. So just help us unionize and throw that excuse out the window. There's many areas that we'd actually be able to work on together and in negotiations piggyback off of each other to lift the bar. It's common practice at other airlines.
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Quote: I'm glad that at least some of you are starting to see how it does benefit your group if FAs do unionize.

Let us do our own negotiating so that your group can just worry about negotiating for your group only. As others have said, there are many areas the company won't move on because they're too visible and would anger the FA group into unionizing. So just help us unionize and throw that excuse out the window. There's many areas that we'd actually be able to work on together and in negotiations piggyback off of each other to lift the bar. It's common practice at other airlines.
Given AFA leadership, there is not allot of benefit in any pilot group helping AFA organize at any company.
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