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02-10-2020 | 11:26 AM
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Delta pilots have never been released into a cooling off period. Never.
It took several years beyond the amendable date of the contract and failed mediation sessions for Spirit pilots to get released about 10 years ago. That's for a workforce that's 1/10th that of Delta pilots.
It took several years beyond the amendable date of the contract and failed mediation sessions for Spirit pilots to get released about 10 years ago. That's for a workforce that's 1/10th that of Delta pilots.
02-10-2020 | 12:53 PM
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A few months later the Northwest flight attendants were in the same boat as Delta pilots and a District court blocked the flight attendants from striking. The decision was then confirmed by the Circuit court unanimously at the same time ALPA was trying to do the same at Comair with pilots.
So to reiterate, the NMB has never released Delta pilots into a cooling off period. Had Delta pilots gone on strike they would have been ordered back to work by the same District court that prevented Northwest flight attendants from going on strike.
02-10-2020 | 01:36 PM
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Yes, 100%. That process was under the US Bankruptcy court and not the NMB.
A few months later the Northwest flight attendants were in the same boat as Delta pilots and a District court blocked the flight attendants from striking. The decision was then confirmed by the Circuit court unanimously at the same time ALPA was trying to do the same at Comair with pilots.
So to reiterate, the NMB has never released Delta pilots into a cooling off period. Had Delta pilots gone on strike they would have been ordered back to work by the same District court that prevented Northwest flight attendants from going on strike.
A few months later the Northwest flight attendants were in the same boat as Delta pilots and a District court blocked the flight attendants from striking. The decision was then confirmed by the Circuit court unanimously at the same time ALPA was trying to do the same at Comair with pilots.
So to reiterate, the NMB has never released Delta pilots into a cooling off period. Had Delta pilots gone on strike they would have been ordered back to work by the same District court that prevented Northwest flight attendants from going on strike.
https://aviationweek.com/delta-pilot...cooling-period
This was in C2K and noting to do with bankruptcy. We were basically 3 days from a PEB as I mentioned above when we reached a TA with Delta.
02-10-2020 | 01:51 PM
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https://aviationweek.com/delta-pilot...cooling-period
This was in C2K and noting to do with bankruptcy. We were basically 3 days from a PEB as I mentioned above when we reached a TA with Delta.
This was in C2K and noting to do with bankruptcy. We were basically 3 days from a PEB as I mentioned above when we reached a TA with Delta.
Having said that, at the time President Bush said he would order the NWA mechanics back to work at the end of their 30 day cooling period (going on at the same time as C2K negotiations) and everyone expected Bush to do the same with Delta pilots.
02-10-2020 | 02:01 PM
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Yes, 100%. That process was under the US Bankruptcy court and not the NMB.
A few months later the Northwest flight attendants were in the same boat as Delta pilots and a District court blocked the flight attendants from striking. The decision was then confirmed by the Circuit court unanimously at the same time ALPA was trying to do the same at Comair with pilots.
So to reiterate, the NMB has never released Delta pilots into a cooling off period. Had Delta pilots gone on strike they would have been ordered back to work by the same District court that prevented Northwest flight attendants from going on strike.
A few months later the Northwest flight attendants were in the same boat as Delta pilots and a District court blocked the flight attendants from striking. The decision was then confirmed by the Circuit court unanimously at the same time ALPA was trying to do the same at Comair with pilots.
So to reiterate, the NMB has never released Delta pilots into a cooling off period. Had Delta pilots gone on strike they would have been ordered back to work by the same District court that prevented Northwest flight attendants from going on strike.
02-10-2020 | 02:30 PM
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Delta pilots have never been released into a cooling off period. Never.
It took several years beyond the amendable date of the contract and failed mediation sessions for Spirit pilots to get released about 10 years ago. That's for a workforce that's 1/10th that of Delta pilots.
It took several years beyond the amendable date of the contract and failed mediation sessions for Spirit pilots to get released about 10 years ago. That's for a workforce that's 1/10th that of Delta pilots.
02-10-2020 | 02:31 PM
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Delta pilots have never been released into a cooling off period. Never.
It took several years beyond the amendable date of the contract and failed mediation sessions for Spirit pilots to get released about 10 years ago. That's for a workforce that's 1/10th that of Delta pilots.
It took several years beyond the amendable date of the contract and failed mediation sessions for Spirit pilots to get released about 10 years ago. That's for a workforce that's 1/10th that of Delta pilots.
02-10-2020 | 02:32 PM
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02-11-2020 | 03:57 AM
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We were actually in the cooling off period. It should be noted however that management did not oppose the release after George Bush publicly stated there would be no airline strikes on his watch. The negotiating climate had changed dramatically against us with losses at Delta mounting. We essentially caved to managements last offer prior to release. We had been 1.7 billion apart.
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