01-15-2022Quote:
First off, you’re too cheap! I’m sorry that is such a low value. I’m sure your loved ones would turn down that sum in exchange for your life, at least I hope that is the case.
The dollar amounts of which you speak all relate to deaths once they occur...no one says “we will pay “X” IN ADVANCE in order to kill/maim people.
Your examples are inapposite. When there is a lawsuit payout it is after the fact, and experts argue in court over the right amount. An insurance payout is just a contract between me and an insurer - it has no relation to my worth, just to how much of a premium I want to pay. I can buy $1000 of insurance or $100,000,000–if I am willing to pay the premium!
Far from trying to squelch discussion, I’m trying to set common terminology to cut through the partisan BS on here.
Thank you for setting your $ number. So would you give up your right to emergency medical care to save your life IF your heirs would receive $200,000?
The science goal is to flatten the curve, but that assumes 100% of people might need emergency care. Maybe enough people like you (and LT Gov Patrick of TX and others on this board) feel strongly that lives should be sacrificed to expedite the recovery, why not do it?
Just as there is a way to isolate those of us wanting to flatten the curve, there must be a way to isolate those willing to die for the economy, and they should be recompensed for this. If this is REALLY just an economic discussion, perhaps there is a new volunteer corps to be started here that will be much more impactful than “Space Force”.
Then those of us willing to flatten the curve and those wanting to get back to work now are both satisfied. N
I think true economic discussions are always worth having, but we don’t take an instrumentalist/purely cost-benefit view in this country (look at death penalty, guns, drugs, etc...it’s always moral or punitive). Always happy to have that discussion!
Originally Posted by majorpilot
Not at all.First off, you’re too cheap! I’m sorry that is such a low value. I’m sure your loved ones would turn down that sum in exchange for your life, at least I hope that is the case.
The dollar amounts of which you speak all relate to deaths once they occur...no one says “we will pay “X” IN ADVANCE in order to kill/maim people.
Your examples are inapposite. When there is a lawsuit payout it is after the fact, and experts argue in court over the right amount. An insurance payout is just a contract between me and an insurer - it has no relation to my worth, just to how much of a premium I want to pay. I can buy $1000 of insurance or $100,000,000–if I am willing to pay the premium!
Far from trying to squelch discussion, I’m trying to set common terminology to cut through the partisan BS on here.
Thank you for setting your $ number. So would you give up your right to emergency medical care to save your life IF your heirs would receive $200,000?
The science goal is to flatten the curve, but that assumes 100% of people might need emergency care. Maybe enough people like you (and LT Gov Patrick of TX and others on this board) feel strongly that lives should be sacrificed to expedite the recovery, why not do it?
Just as there is a way to isolate those of us wanting to flatten the curve, there must be a way to isolate those willing to die for the economy, and they should be recompensed for this. If this is REALLY just an economic discussion, perhaps there is a new volunteer corps to be started here that will be much more impactful than “Space Force”.
Then those of us willing to flatten the curve and those wanting to get back to work now are both satisfied. N
I think true economic discussions are always worth having, but we don’t take an instrumentalist/purely cost-benefit view in this country (look at death penalty, guns, drugs, etc...it’s always moral or punitive). Always happy to have that discussion!
Ha ha. Not sure if thats flattery or an insult that im too cheap. I have often thought to myself... If im terminally ill how much of my savings should I chomp through to save my own life..... Knowing I could die and leave mu family with that much less.
I have also through recently...... How.much would I need to be paid to be infected.... Never came up with a price.
Yep. I follow all of your logic. I just think that this discussion is going to happen..... Or is already happening but in an indirect manner.
Back to my original point. We cant just be 'open for business'...or 'save lives at ALL cost'. There IS somewhere inbetween that we need to meet. But where....Are you saying that these two options are not.on the same spectrum? Cause that is what most people are arguing.
Another problem..... Those in power who make the desicions will most likely be able to protect themselvs from potential fall out (oh like a war).....they can hardly make an ethical choice.
