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Quote: Hello everyone I hope your day is going well. I am currently looking into applying for United Aviate. To my understanding, it is a flow-through program to United where they claim it is the “Fastest way to the right seat.” Which is defiantly intriguing. I am not putting all my eggs in this basket but United/Delta are my dream airlines to work for. I am currently a student at ATP through their program with Arizona State University at Mesa-Gateway (KIWA). I am about halfway through my instrument rating so I qualify for the program.

The application is set through Airline Apps and I have heard rumors that it is highly recommended to get an app review by check and set before you apply to the airlines. I am wondering if this is still the case as an app review from them costs $399. As I am also still a college student I don’t have a lot of money to spend but if it is 100% worth it, I will do it since United is one of my dream airlines. Any recommendations?
i wouldnt use a service for aviate the airline apps stuff is very fill in the blank. Double check spelling and dont say anything stupid and you'll be fine. Interview prep might be worth it might not be. I did EC and felt it was all common sense stuff. Aviation interviews was a better help.
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Quote: i wouldnt use a service for aviate the airline apps stuff is very fill in the blank. Double check spelling and dont say anything stupid and you'll be fine. Interview prep might be worth it might not be. I did EC and felt it was all common sense stuff. Aviation interviews was a better help.
AirlineApps is VERY NOT fill in the blank!! They want you to put it in a certain way, and they don’t tell you which way they want
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Quote: i wouldnt use a service for aviate the airline apps stuff is very fill in the blank. Double check spelling and dont say anything stupid and you'll be fine. Interview prep might be worth it might not be. I did EC and felt it was all common sense stuff. Aviation interviews was a better help.
As someone already said, it’s not a lot of money towards a career worth multiple millions in the long run. Also, the app review is worth it IMO. While I had significantly longer history than a standard college person I would still say Cage is worth the money as an investment in your future. I would recommend both the app review and the interview prep. There are tiny pitfalls in the airline apps that can easily be missed if you don’t know what they’re looking for.
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Hi Everyone! I've wanted to be a United pilot since I could speak, and the opening of Aviate Academy has only fueled my passion. I'm curious what you all think about applying for Aviate Academy & Aviate without a university degree. I have 4 years to go until I get my bachelor's degree, and while I'm interested in what I'm studying, flying is all I can think about, and I really don't feel like waiting for 4 years to spread my wings. Would it make sense to apply to Aviate Academy now without a university degree? Would my chances of getting into Aviate be lower without a university degree? Alternatively, can I apply and defer my enrollment? I look forward to hearing your thoughts!
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Quote: Hi Everyone! I've wanted to be a United pilot since I could speak, and the opening of Aviate Academy has only fueled my passion. I'm curious what you all think about applying for Aviate Academy & Aviate without a university degree. I have 4 years to go until I get my bachelor's degree, and while I'm interested in what I'm studying, flying is all I can think about, and I really don't feel like waiting for 4 years to spread my wings. Would it make sense to apply to Aviate Academy now without a university degree? Would my chances of getting into Aviate be lower without a university degree? Alternatively, can I apply and defer my enrollment? I look forward to hearing your thoughts!
Suggest you go read through the program details and costs. No degree is required for Aviate Academy. You will need to get a degree at some point before joining United unless United makes a change somewhere down the road. It will be a minimum of about 4 years from starting the academy until you will be eligible to join mainline United.
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Quote: As someone already said, it’s not a lot of money towards a career worth multiple millions in the long run. Also, the app review is worth it IMO. While I had significantly longer history than a standard college person I would still say Cage is worth the money as an investment in your future. I would recommend both the app review and the interview prep. There are tiny pitfalls in the airline apps that can easily be missed if you don’t know what they’re looking for.
Agreed. It's easy to make a mistake and it will be worth your time and money to have it reviewed. Also recommend Cage.
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I have a few questions that need answering if people don't mind

1. How do I know what my position is in the aviate program?
2. How do I know what my first day of enrollment into the program is?
3. Which goes into this question... How do I know my seniority number in aviate?
I don't see any of the above in help hub.

Now more importantly,
4. I've been accepted into aviate through a regional opt-in. Despite not meeting one of the criteria in the APG. My question is, it says it looks at the past 5 years before transitioning, but can be a *lower timeframe* based on the discretion of united.

4a. So how does this discretion work?
4b. Let's say my number is called, and I am 1 year from having this 5-year look back reset to meet the guidelines in the APG, can I hold off transition for a year before transitioning? (this is assuming they didn't use thier discretion to look back less than 5 years)
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Quote: Hi Everyone! I've wanted to be a United pilot since I could speak, and the opening of Aviate Academy has only fueled my passion. I'm curious what you all think about applying for Aviate Academy & Aviate without a university degree. I have 4 years to go until I get my bachelor's degree, and while I'm interested in what I'm studying, flying is all I can think about, and I really don't feel like waiting for 4 years to spread my wings. Would it make sense to apply to Aviate Academy now without a university degree? Would my chances of getting into Aviate be lower without a university degree? Alternatively, can I apply and defer my enrollment? I look forward to hearing your thoughts!
If I were you I would start flight training, get your ratings as fast as possible, build time, get hired at any regional, and work on your degree at the same time either online or in person if you can swing it.

In my opinion, by being in Aviate and meeting all their requirements, it will take you longer to reach a United flight deck than if you stayed out of the program. This may be a controversial opinion, however, I have many friends who work for regionals and are in Aviate. None of them will get the call from United to "flow" until they meet the regional flight time requirements of the program. (minimum service requirements of 24 months and 2,000 flight hours for First Officers, or 1,500 flight hours for Captains, with a United Express Aviate partner.)

I never joined aviate, worked for a regional, got my degree while at the regionals, left for a LCC and was invited to interview at United shortly after finishing training at the LCC.

YMMV, but I know that all of my buddies who have been hired by United did it the fastest choosing a route similar to mine and outside of the aviate program.
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Quote: If I were you I would start flight training, get your ratings as fast as possible, build time, get hired at any regional, and work on your degree at the same time either online or in person if you can swing it.

In my opinion, by being in Aviate and meeting all their requirements, it will take you longer to reach a United flight deck than if you stayed out of the program. This may be a controversial opinion, however, I have many friends who work for regionals and are in Aviate. None of them will get the call from United to "flow" until they meet the regional flight time requirements of the program. (minimum service requirements of 24 months and 2,000 flight hours for First Officers, or 1,500 flight hours for Captains, with a United Express Aviate partner.)

I never joined aviate, worked for a regional, got my degree while at the regionals, left for a LCC and was invited to interview at United shortly after finishing training at the LCC.

YMMV, but I know that all of my buddies who have been hired by United did it the fastest choosing a route similar to mine and outside of the aviate program.
👆 💯 I got a phd in this, and this is spot on.
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Did anyone watch the Aviate year celebration on FT the other day?
Say what you will about Aviate... it is a great day when a young pilot solo's, or gets their Private (or any new rating/license~)

Exciting time to be a Professional Pilot. Seems like 5 years ago we were hearing of pilots NOT wanting their children going into Aviation.. based on what they had been through.
Lets hope these future Aviators have a Long, Rewarding, Safe and Successful career ahead of them~

Always
Motch
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