maybe that’s the big news tomorrow?

if so.. where would the DFW cut-off be??

It’s not straight forward because of relative base seniority but my rough math puts it at about 640 seniority number as the bottom ca with a 20 pct shrink. We lose more ejet than crj captains because ejet is more Jr. May force some ca displacement to the ejet side. It’s a mess no matter what and this number is sheer fantasy. We know nothing. The public stance is stated in the investor call. JO would rather have a reduced hour MOU than to furlough.

Agreed throwing numbers around like that out of nowhere is counterproductive and only serves to create a panic amongst the pilot group. I’m pro reduced hour block if it saves jobs. Then again that is a big if. But who knows if the union could get some solid language to rule out furloughs for an extended time. I’m here to protect the small guy, the new hire FO, not the fat cat 20+ year guys on top who could care less if their 22 year old FO, with a child, sitting next to them has a job next week.

I’m sure he would rather see the MOU than furlough - it’s much more cost effective for him. Maybe it’s just me, but I find it hard to make ends meet at 76 hrs. I do not want to make less, this is my job, not a hobby. If flying doesn’t pick up significantly for us in the next month or two, I think furloughs are inevitable anyway.

Make sure you explain that to the new hire FO who will be without a paycheck then. Can’t go back to instructing now either. So McDonald’s then for our new hire FO’s. Or amazon. No one else is hiring right now. The country has stopped. Good to know we have no second thoughts about kicking co workers to the streets though.

I’m with you. I am in the bottom 20%. Rather get furloughed so the bonus payback is void so I can go get a higher paying job. Union, please do not take a reduced hours MOU. Toe the line and hold your worth. FO’s can’t live on 50*$36. It’s a joke. Rather be furloughed.

[QUOTE=terks43;3072167]Make sure you explain that to the new hire FO who will be without a paycheck then. Can’t go back to instructing now either. So McDonald’s then for our new hire FO’s. Or amazon. No one else is hiring right now. The country has stopped. Good to know we have no second thoughts about kicking co workers to the streets though.[/QUOTE

The junior guys I have spoken to seem to understand that furloughs are part of the dark side of this business. They are professionals.

It sucks, but it is simply part of how this profession works with our seniority based system. These are the times that seniority matters - one number can mean the difference between employment or furlough, captain or downgrade. The last thing we need is to give the company a chance to weaken our contract - Christ, we already gave them the chance to lower FO pay. Thankfully they didn’t exercise that option.

Actually lots of instructor positions are opening up everywhere. But nonetheless, we’re taking less pay even with the inevitable furloughs coming. It would be nice to know now so we can start looking for other jobs, especially with people on unemployment making more than us right now.

Compare our pay rates to everyone else’s why do we need to be further below every other airline. JO needs to use the money he was trying to spend on another airline.