Senate leaves until September without coronavirus relief deal

As furlough deadline time ticks down for ual pilots...what is the next avenues? Will we hear from the union any time soon?

Has anyone received an actual furlough notice yet?

If you are in the threat range of furlough please don’t wait to find a job. It’s better to have two and want only one, than to have none and want one.

Now everybody can blame Congress instead of UAL for their maladies. Makes for great twisted optics.

American warned us (read Congress) today that they would have to cancel service to 30 smaller cities if something isn’t done. Expect this type of drip drip info from various industry carriers for the next two weeks until Congress is back in session.

in my previous life, I did some work with Hill folks, and I’d speculate this is major posturing before those final pre election bills are passed. The Bill has been crafted and most like agreed upon. But, both sides have to maneuver for optics to appease donors and ensure the right folks vote the right way to hold their seats.

Likely, actual furlough notices (not WARN letters) will be delivered. This will keep the heat on for members to do something. Then, magically, just in the nick of time, at the last possible moment, an agreement will be “reached”. Much stress until then. But I’d say a better than 50% chance those furlough notices will be postponed or even cancelled until the next ones go out 120 days later.

welcome to the swamp.

It's an election year. There is a very very high chance that cares is eventually extended, especially since it already has backing from congress and the president. That may buy us enough time to see the industry rebound fairly significantly, and thus, much lower furlough numbers come next spring.

I would agree with what you said an add a little myself from a previous life. Keep in my mind cares 2 is also linked to other provisions such as trying to stave off an eviction wave If you are the incumbent party and the White House you do not want a repeat of 08. The party on the White House gets the blame it’s how it works for better or worse. The last optics you want is footage from local stations filming the local sheriffs evictions units kicking families to the curb.

There is nothing out there to be had. Amazing how things can change in six months.

This is a tough sell for any politician. We (pilots) are asking the American taxpayers to protect our 6 figure incomes until our services are needed again while countless others lose their life savings watching their family businesses and restaurants go bankrupt, putting far more people out of work. I don’t want to see airline employees on the streets, but why do we deserve government aid while the average citizen goes broke? You can only print so much money, and you can’t help everyone. Where does it end?

I'm sure I don't need to remind you, that there are more airline employees making far less than there are pilots. Several hundred thousand across the US in fact. If you want a transportation system on the other side, couple that with the infrastructure required to run an airline, this makes investment in the airlines almost mandatory. Pilots are a blip. We may benefit by the bailout, but we are not the emphasis.