The super rich always find somewhere to take them. This year they have been doing French Polynesia, Turkey, and Croatia.

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I’ve heard good things about Croatia : )

Upgrades will continue to be slow for another 5-6 years. Once people start leaving (note, I say leaving because people don’t retire from Netjets), I still don’t know how quick it will be. While NJ does have hundreds of guys close to or 60+, there are still probably 1,000+ late 40’s/early 50’s guys who are not going anywhere and won’t leave until after 2030 at the earliest, have golden handcuffs, one of the reasons I left and haven’t looked back. Movement at NJ is just painfully slow. There are a lot of folks who don’t know/don’t want to let go. They want to go straight from the cockpit to the casket.

I had the same experience at NJ. It's a very good flying job, but because of their hiring cycle, where they grew rapidly in the mid 90's, don't expect to have a quick upgrade to the left seat, or to the desirable aircraft, for a long time. Too many pilots in their mid-40's to early 50's that have aren't retiring any time soon.

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You think when hiring off the street picks up with the majors (2025+) will there be a chunk of NJ CA that will make the move? Or will they be so golden handcuffed they will not leave?

After this event, I doubt you’ll see many CA’s making the move, especially those middle 40’s or older, only slowing down upgrades even further.

Looking at one of the last seniority lists, you see so many senior guys names, under 500 seniority, that are under 55, that are not going anywhere, as a guy in the 500’s seniority back when I left, it was disheartening, because even the guys 60+ in this seniority range, like [EDIT: SECURITY], etc, etc, are not going to leave anytime soon. And around my former date of hire (2000), sooooo many guys late 40’s/early 50’s that have 15-20 years left in them.

union released age numbers earlier this summer. About 900 pilots 58+.

There will likely be around 40% of the list retiring or losing their medicals over the next decade. There are also many very senior pilots who have a long time to go. There will probably be 20 year non voluntary SICs hired pre furlough. I am late 40s with over 250 pilots senior AND younger than me. I will never be able to be a PIC on the biggest/ bestest beast we have. I am OK with that, but people should definitely think through how their age/ seniority will likely affect their progression when deciding what is best for their future. Some did and made the jump while others are OK with what they have. Some made the jump and are now second guessing that choice while many who made the jump are happy with their choice- I have talked to friends on both sides of this over the last month. Who would have thought pilots would be happy finding out they get to stay employed at essentially half pay? Every choice is a gamble in this profession. Even starting out in it now as a younger pilot is a gamble that there will be a good job available all the way until you are able to retire.

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They can fly another 20 years too. That is the scary part...