Is that a dropping metric with retirements and hiring? Obviously the koolaid gets passed around hard in indoc but big title names in flight ops have been telling new hires to expect 2 year upgrades based on the movement. It goes without sayin take every thing with a grain of salt and common sense but where do you guys see the trend in terms of DOH NB upgrades and WB flying in the the next near?

Not me! Still being withheld. Boooooo!

honestly, this one was probably a little artificial because of summer training and premium opportunities right now in the right seat. Not saying it won’t keep coming down, but this could be a little too good.

Any idea where PHX stands? Thanks!

East of LAX but still west of DFW.

Most Junior Wide body Captain
LGA 777
hired 3/1992
30 yrs.

There were zero new hires from March 2020 to September 2021. About 1.5 years. So at some point, there’s gonna be a big juniority jump. Perhaps that’s their 2 year upgrade logic.

The “this vacancy went artificially low due to insert reasons here” argument probably has merit. Then again, looking through the FO-CA upgrades on the list, I see quite a few who were/are living in premium in the right seat yet still bid the upgrade.

The other two Legacies already have sub two year upgrade times. If you asked anybody there late last year you would get 4 to 5 year upgrade times when asked the question. Point being when it starts to drop fast it usually catches most people off guard. I think the same thing happens at AA soon enough.

Quite a wait