i can’t find anywhere where his ab initio background was the cause of the crash.

if the pilot had had a German Air Force background (like the pilot in the flight I mentioned who had a military flying background in his country) would you say “hiring ex military pilots clearly does not work” or acknowledge that one person having a mental breakdown does not mean the way that person trained for the job does not work.

Their LCC subsidiary took the brunt of it, not Lufthansa. Maybe that's why they sent the broken toy there in the first place.

Can you find anything where I said ab initio training CAUSED the crash? No? That's because I didn't.

Someone claimed 'ab initio works for Lufthansa'. I questioned that blanket "it works great" pollyanish statement with the fact that a Lifthansa ab initio 100 hour hire purposely crashed an airliner and killed 144 people.

Does that meet your definition of "ab initio works for Lufthansa"?

I would disagree with your statement since the lawsuit and the years of bad press were against Lufthansa. The initial crash, sure the media was saying "Germanwings crash" every few minutes and that's bad, but the long term lawsuit headlines were against Lufthansa.

Better for LH to be named later in a lawsuit than have their logo on the big headlines. You and I know the relationship between GW and LH, but if I ask 10 friends and family five of them might remember germanwings but none would have any idea that LH was involved. Several german speakers and natives in that circle. Folks residing in DE are probably more aware.

GW was shutdown. The regionals which had at-fault fatal accidents here in the US this century have all been shut down. Funny how the off-brand subsidiaries go away but the mainline brands keeps on truckin'

Meh.... your stretching several times to connect a bunch of distant dots to drag people to your point, which is apparently that Americans don't know Lifthansa is connected to Germanwings?

Ok, what does that have to due with the issue? Americans don't know a lot of things about Germany just like Germans don't know a lot of things about America.

But everybody knows United Airlines beat up that Doctor and physically tossed him off an airplane a few years ago..... even though it wasn't United it was a feeder airline.

Anyway, Germany doesn't have much to do with our age 67/68 question so I'll leave it there.

But if someone says "ab initio works for Lufthansa" my answer remains the same.

I'm not an ab initio proponent and I don't think it worked well in this case. But I think the pilot in question was utilized at arms length, and that wasn't an accident.

Theyve still got National committee chairmen that insist there is no shortage at all, not now and not later.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/pilot-shortage-start-ageism-rcna34831

“It is time to clear the boomers for takeoff.”

Now it’s not even age 67, they just want no age.

That's awesome! Maybe they should do a poll on all the retired boomers that want to get hired back on the bottom of the seniority lists of any airline. Stuck on reserve in LGA well into your 80's! Hopefully that new legislation to let 18 year olds drive 18 wheelers also passes so we can solve the trucker shortage.