ALPA: Don't raise retirement age
06-22-2022, 11:01 PM
#171
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Originally Posted by Moonbeam
That's awesome! Maybe they should do a poll on all the retired boomers that want to get hired back on the bottom of the seniority lists of any airline. Stuck on reserve in LGA well into your 80's! Hopefully that new legislation to let 18 year olds drive 18 wheelers also passes so we can solve the trucker shortage.
I could get on board with that. (not really, b/c there's no way I'm willing to fly with post 65 year olds again. It's like a box of chocolates, but half of them are moldy.)
06-23-2022, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
SIC privileges only after 65. No international. Seniority resets to bottom of list on 65 birthday.
I could get on board with that.
I could get on board with that.
(not really, b/c there's no way I'm willing to fly with post 65 year olds again. It's like a box of chocolates, but half of them are moldy.)
06-23-2022, 03:11 AM
#173
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Originally Posted by captjns
Some countries overseas put post 65ers in the right seat. They are, however, permitted to operate to countries that do allow post 65ers,, such at NZ, and AUS.
You never know what captains at your airline think about you… a tiny peach way to immature to be picked.
You never know what captains at your airline think about you… a tiny peach way to immature to be picked.
06-23-2022, 05:47 AM
#174
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Originally Posted by Fly4FunAA
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/pilot-shortage-start-ageism-rcna34831
“It is time to clear the boomers for takeoff.”
Now it’s not even age 67, they just want no age.
“It is time to clear the boomers for takeoff.”
Now it’s not even age 67, they just want no age.
This is the generation that promoted socialism and protested capitalism and wars in the 60s, got high and discoed through the 70s, then invented "conspicuous consumption" yuppies in the 80s while promoting wars, capitalism, and deficit spending. Later they transformed into right wing religious fanatics who hate socialism. Now they want to steal more years at the top from the Lost Generation. Very on brand.
06-23-2022, 06:10 AM
#175
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
SIC privileges only after 65. No international. Seniority resets to bottom of list on 65 birthday.
Safety is the only legit excuse for age limits, it's either safe or not. If it's safe, then any other age-associated limits are discrimination.
Remote, vague possibility you could make a case that they can only be SIC's. Although reality on that is that it will be just like the last time: one of the two needs to be under 60.
But no possible way they lose their seniority.
06-23-2022, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
No possible way that can happen, SCOTUS would toss it in a heartbeat (if it even made it that far).
Safety is the only legit excuse for age limits, it's either safe or not. If it's safe, then any other age-associated limits are discrimination.
Remote, vague possibility you could make a case that they can only be SIC's. Although reality on that is that it will be just like the last time: one of the two needs to be under 60.
But no possible way they lose their seniority.
Safety is the only legit excuse for age limits, it's either safe or not. If it's safe, then any other age-associated limits are discrimination.
Remote, vague possibility you could make a case that they can only be SIC's. Although reality on that is that it will be just like the last time: one of the two needs to be under 60.
But no possible way they lose their seniority.
And as a bonus to lawmakers, they'll view it as a way to save the Social Security Trust Fund a bit of coin, along with additional taxes flowing into the system.
If there are a few summer airline meltdowns, it will grease the skids for an age change to pass. So if you don't want an age change, fly your butt off this summer and make sure your airline doesn't have a schedule meltdown.
06-23-2022, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
You never know what captains at your airline think about you… a tiny peach way to immature to be picked.
I think they’re all great people but I’ve flown with a ton of post 65 guys and cognitive decline is a real thing, and it affects everyone differently, and many are good at hiding it.
06-24-2022, 02:40 AM
#178
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Their parents were known as The Greatest Generation. The Boomers will be known as The Greediest Generation.
This is the generation that promoted socialism and protested capitalism and wars in the 60s, got high and discoed through the 70s, then invented "conspicuous consumption" yuppies in the 80s while promoting wars, capitalism, and deficit spending. Later they transformed into right wing religious fanatics who hate socialism. Now they want to steal more years at the top from the Lost Generation. Very on brand.
This is the generation that promoted socialism and protested capitalism and wars in the 60s, got high and discoed through the 70s, then invented "conspicuous consumption" yuppies in the 80s while promoting wars, capitalism, and deficit spending. Later they transformed into right wing religious fanatics who hate socialism. Now they want to steal more years at the top from the Lost Generation. Very on brand.
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