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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
It absolutely was because countless people on here think come 8/1 they’re guna be equivalent to DAL and whoever else has a new contract in place. No you absolutely won’t be within a few dollars that’s not how the law of averages works. As it stands with AS/JB/DL averaged out it’ll be $320/hr for a topped out CA that’s actually incorrect though because it’s not using the current AA/UA rates which will only bring it down more assuming they’re not signed in by then.
It's astounding how misunderstood this, "Average Rate Adjustment", language is. I still fly with guys that think once DAL signs, we, "snap up", to their rate. They believe the look back, only includes newly signed CBA rates, excluding rates from companies that haven't signed new contracts. Now that JB has signed, ALL 5 AIRLINES ARE USED IN THE AVERAGE REGARDLESS OF HAVING A NEW OR OLD CBA IN PLACE. The look on their faces when I slowly read and explain the language is something to see.
I do hold the NC and rest of the Union guys in high regard, but this was very poorly explained. some have told me that this was how the reps explained it to them.... I find it hard to believe a rep would purposefully mislead a pilot which makes me think the reps didn't fully understand the language. It's been sliced and diced six ways from Sunday now. Guys have created spread sheets and excel documents, trying to explain what needs to happen in order for us to see an increase over our scheduled 4% raise on 9/1/23. Yet, there are still a special few, who refuse to acknowledge, this is not a "snap up". At the rate UAL and SW are going, their rates will weigh down the average and we will not see an increase on 9/1/23. Keep in mind, it takes a couple of months to go from AIP-TA-CBA. So if UAL, AA, SW don't have AIP's by 8/1/23....we can rest assured, we will not see an increase above 4%. Anything signed on 00:01 on 9/2/23, will not be counted in our Average up. You better believe the company will hold us to that. HeII, they'll probably argue that anything signed after 00:01 on 9/1/23 won't be counted since our raise takes effect at 00:00.
As has been stated many, many, times here, our first chance of seeing an increase over the 4% raise will be 9/1/24.