Oil is racing below $100/bbl.

The company is on track to make an incredible amount of money from "synergies" (i.e., furloughing me).

The amount of money the "new" Delta stands to make simply from the credit card company who wins the bid to hold DAL's frequent flier card could have singlehandedly supported far higher pay and QOL for all of us.

"I told you so" doesn't even come close to the appropriate response to your unimaginative, visionless, spineless, "strategy" in the joint contract negotiation.

DALPA and you "yes" people touted this as the fastest way back to restoration. I call BS, and thank you for screwing all of us out of thousands of dollars and huge quality of life increases we could have had with a little leadership and foresight.

You have turned this new contract into the baseline, into what we will have to chip away at in 5 or 6 years just to get a respectable cost-of-living increase, to say nothing about your laughable assertion that we can get "restoration" in several years when we have ZERO leverage, while DALPA was unwilling to even attempt to make a dent with all the leverage in the world this time around.

I hope to return DALPA's favor in kind one day. The moment I have the chance to volunteer for, vote for, contribute financially to, or in any other way propagate the creation of a new union, I will.

Until then, please know that I hate everything ALPA, DALPA, and you "yes men" stand for, and will do everything I can to pay you back in kind.

Lee Moak, union stooges, et al, I sure hope your free trips to the Cheetah Lounge and kickbacks from managment made this all worthwhile.

[quote=Spaceman Spliff;459272]The company is on track to make an incredible amount of money from "synergies" (i.e., furloughing me).

The amount of money the "new" Delta stands to make simply from the credit card company who wins the bid to hold DAL's frequent flier card could have singlehandedly supported far higher pay and QOL for all of us[qoute]


While I voted no, it was not because of the contract itself. Is it as good as I wanted? No. But it's not far off. The company making money is a good thing. I would rather err to the side of taking too little from the company than taking too much.

I bet you don't get furloughed. You can and likely will get screwed in the SLI, but you won't lose your job.

Are you even off probabtion yet? Since you don't have that much time invested in the job and are convinced you're getting furloughed, why not get a head start out the door if this place isn't up to your expectations. Did you even do any due diligence as to how acquiesent the Delta pilots are to management? I've been here over eight years, been furloughed, and could have told you that anyone advocating a "NO" vote was trying to **** up a rope. There's a reason Delta does the psych eval, even though some non-Stepford pilots do tend to filter through. If this is your reaction to this vote, I predict a long and non-fulfilling career if you stay. Sorry for the bad news.

However, if oil goes back to over $130.00 if Ike trashes the Gulf oil industry, will you then say, "Oh, never mind."?

Ditto...from a NWA guy who voted yes...don't let the door hit your a$$ on the way out...bye bye. Oil may be below $100 today...it may not be tomorrow...too many uncertainties out there right now.

Spaceman,

I am a no voter as well, but if you are indeed correct, we have outstanding profit sharing to take advantage of those profits. Regardless, it's over and done.

Have you been drinking? Where did this rant come from?

Is it yes to LOA #19 or the JC?

LOA 19 is where the DAL pilots had bargaining power imo. The co had to have those allowances (scope) to get the deal moving. This is where we could of really made things hard for mngt. The JC is a different beast imo, the merger was going to happen no matter how either group voted on the JC.

Again, if this group (DAL) wanted more $$$ the time to get it was when the company needed something. Let me think what did they need........ hmmm.

I didn't vote yes on everything, but I certainly don't blame those that did. It's their right to vote how they want, this beast is what it is. If it really uh....hacks you off enough, shall we say, maybe you should find a job where you get to control things instead of being 1 of 7,400 and having to live with the results.

Oh yeah, and EVERYONE knew oil was going down to $100.00......right?

And I thought our shrink screened guys like this out! (SS)
You are entitled to your opinion, however, I bet if you had to put your name and employee number by this rant it would not be as strong. .... Fire Away..... Remember you have a right to quit but I bet you will continue to work here under these miserable conditions.

I haven't seen the language on profit sharing... can you fill in some of the details?

I truly hope you are not an FFDO. I cannot imagine you being able to pass a psych eval.

Carl