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Originally Posted by tsquare
What you might call (sic.) "adding intellectual relevance" to the discussion, I characterize it as a red herring, straw man, idiotic argument into which I will not venture, because it is meaningless and, well... idiotic. But, if you reread my post I pretty much agreed that virtually nobody had that on their survey. So I answered your stupid question. Now go right ahead and spin it into something it isn't.
Still not clear are you T. There is no straw man argument. No red herring. No idiotic argument into which you will not venture.
It was a question only, and rhetorical at that.
Do you SERIOUSLY think the that the majority opinion on the surveys for C12k reflected a desire to forgo and give up a large portion of profit sharing and 4-8-3-3 for pay raises?
A rhetorical question is a question that you ask without expecting an answer. The question might be one that does not have an answer. It might also be one that has an obvious answer but you have asked the question to make a point, to persuade or for literary effect.
I asked that question as a lead in or set up to the next question, which you chose not to answer as I believe you have nothing relevant to submit. That question is as follows:
How do we get an accurate survey with 100 percent participation and then attain our collective goals?
I know you are a staunch advocate of LBP (longevity based pay) or otherwise known as seat pay. You have touted that here every now and then.
However, since you once again were completely condescending in your following post to a fellow poster, I wanted to see if you had anything of relevance to add, such as your previous LGP posts, or were just going to keep on mud slinging and launching your belittling personal attacks, Mr. Line Check Airman.
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I can complain as much as I want. That's what being a dues paying member gets me. I will vote no to the contract if it does not meet my expectations (it won't). I don't see the benefit to filling out a survey that our union is just going to ignore anyway.
Do you SERIOUSLY think they just flat out ignored it? Or do you not want to accept that maybe you are not of a majority opinion?
T's eloquent response:
If you believe they ignored it for some black helicopter desire to screw everyone including themselves in the process, well that is a really pathetic view of those working on our behalf. And if that's truly the case, I hope you don't participate, we don't need garbage stats junking up the data.