DL/NW guys, what's the avrg basic empty weight and the seating capacity of your 320-319s.

Thank you

Reading the last 6 pages and not many comments on the loss of flying for our pilots and flight attendants by the DOWN SIZE plan on the BOS-LGA shuttle. I know DCA-LGA has been this way for a couple years now, but the transition is complete with this wholesale giveaway. Once a cash machine, due to many reasons, Acela probably the least, no MARKETING, IMO the primary, we have lost a jewel, and 40% fewer seats to commute.

And don't discount the effect of Go To Meeting dot com! Now, instead of flying into NYC for a meeting, people can -log on- from anywhere. Also, as previously stated, many of the 'high rollers' (previously known as our HVC's) are fed up with the TSA and are now flying Delta Elite, or on their own private jets.

Sweet job.



Hey 744 guys, how much can you bank the thing during a crosswind landing?

Well, how much is Acela from NY to DC? Oh wait I'll google it. $400. Round trip walk up fare today from NY PENN to Washington Union. 3 hour trip.

It's $800+ for a walk up ticket today on either USAir's shuttle or ours.

But what's the time when you really include traveling to LGA via a cab or what have you, checking in, security, waiting for an outsourced regional to get it's act together (personal experience), 1:15 flight, land, cab to DC? <- and that's all if it's on time and no typical LGA delays.

Why do I have a feeling a 3 hour train trip is better and more reliable?

Not a "loss of flying"...the flying has been moved, but your right in that its sad to see the once mighty shuttle operation downgraded to an RJ op....hopefully the ridership will return with the economy.

I'm pretty sure on the 747's they put little roller blade wheels on the bottom of the outboard engines just for that purpose!

I know in the KC135 (A Models) I think the number they taught us was about 8 degrees bank, more than that you'd scrape a pod.

BUT...then they put the bigger (fatter) engines on it (the R Models) so the 8 degrees must have been reduced. I always loved the 757 because it had such long legs and a big rudder, (and no outboard engines!) you could really lay it over in a good crosswind, touch down one main at a time, just like a J3!

I was engineer on a 727 one day when the F/O got a wingtip in a good crosswind! Not hard to do with heavily swept wing and short legs, it was a lousy crosswind airplane. Most guys would just crab all the way to the flare, then kick it and hope. A wet runway always helped to 'slide it on' if you were still a little sideways at impact.

As my IOE Capt. said to me..."Don't try to get fancy with it, just put it down!" (like this?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vH2y...eature=related

Can't remember the average empty weight, but the configuration of the A319 is 12/114 for 126 pax and the A320 is 12/138 for 150 pax.

The A320 config was 16/132 for 148 pax. I think we are still in the process of converting them, but eventually they'll all be in the 12/138.

I live in Park City and have for almost 14 years. Real estate prices have dropped significantly and there have been many distressed sales.

The upper end of the market has been hit the least, but that's probably homes in the five million and up range. Had FTB won the lottery he might be looking in that range, but not us mere mortals.

This is just my impression but things are starting to firm up a bit. If you are seriously interested in buying here I wouldn't wait too long.

One development, Promontory, had a great deal of speculative buyers/investors and there are a number of distressed sales there. Some of the distressed sales have truly been cheap. It's a different situation as the location is a bit farther out from everything. They have two golf courses and an equestrian center in the development. Promontory was originally marketed as a second home development, so I'm not sure how many full time residents there are or how many are young families. Again this is my opinion but I think Promontory will recover more slowly than the rest of Park City, but if you're patient you will be rewarded.

R model was 5 degrees wheels off and 3 degrees wheels on (compressed gear).